[whattajoke]

"You seem unaware that your technique of "controlling the definitions" makes any kind of rational discourse impossible"
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Well said. As someone once said, If someone swears the clock is talking to him, I can't convince him otherwise. And so it goes with the creationist crew. We say one thing, and no matter how valid and solid it is, it has no effect on the minds of them. This was also the genesis of one of the Creationist's favorite obfuscations... I believe it was Gould who said something along the lines of, "I give up trying to debate with creationists because they can't be wrong." Of course we know what he meant, and of course the continually lying creationists use it to slander a dead biologist. on and on and on it goes...

[Condorman]

You are here.

[Boiler Plate]

Joke,

You and Pat are then by you own definition trying to use that very same technique.

Patrick, whines and complains that anyone who disagrees with him is not debating fairly. He definitions are not the reason he doen't win the debate, he simply cannot win the debate because he doesn't know what he is arguing about nor who to make persuasive arguments stating his case. This mostly because he does not posses an open enough mind to understand the opposing view. It's tough to win the battle when you don't know what you are battling against. He resorts to name-calling every time he is faced with an argument he cannot win and then cries to his Evo friends about how evil the opposition is. If he can get beyond his preconceptions and biases and thoughtfully considers the opposing view he might actually learn something new, different and possible even better.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

[gore3000]

Of course we know what he meant, and of course the continually lying creationists use it to slander a dead biologist.

First of all Gould was no biologist, he was a paleontologist. His totally moronic 'punk-eek' which is in no way science and in no way supported by any evidence (in fact it is just an excuse for the lack of evidence of Darwinian evolution in the fossil record) is a total fraud specifically designed to make money out of a theory he knew was a fraud. He is just one more in the long line of liars of evolution.