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To: ctdonath2; xsrdx
I wonder where you are from? I know you are convinced that you know more about this then those who have lived here for 150 years, but you don't. Nobody cares more about the natural environment then the ranchers, farmers, loggers, and miners who live here. They want to leave it to there descendants. I am sure there are exceptions, but for the most part they know more, and care more. They live for the most part very modestly, while the rest of the country (who think they know it all) strives for more money, more cars, and bigger houses. Its not all about ranching. The meeting I went to the other night was put on by educated men. The speaker has a masters in wildlife biology.(from Notre Dame) If you read the article you will see that many wildlife biologists, including the project coordinator are very troubled by what is happening. Its not about saving wolves, its about money, and control. Its about rural cleansing. Its about gun control, it’s about earth worship, It’s about agenda 21. And unfortunately they found something to use that many so-called conservatives will fall for.

Another question? Do you think it was right to Introduce a species (canadian grey wolf, 150lbs) that was never here over one(rocky mountain wolf 80lbs) that was here? What is natural about that. Maybe we should try grizzlies in Arkansas, or Florida?
103 posted on 12/12/2002 10:41:30 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
You're not paying attention; I've already addressed the species question.
106 posted on 12/12/2002 3:45:17 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Delphinium
Well, I don't know jack except that I think wolves have a legitimate place in North American wilderness. These articles have a pretty clear bias in favor of game species like Elk, Moose and Antelope - as if they are somehow more worthwhile than wolves.

I understand the threat to private property, and I certainly don't support any socialist effort to eliminate ranching.

My position is that delisting the wolf, allowing ranchers to handle problem animals, and perhaps even allowing a culling would go a long ways toward curing the problem.

I also question the "sky is falling" rhetoric coming from the anti-wolf crowd, as if an ecosystem that supported wolves for 5,000 years is suddenly going to hell because of their reintroduction. If we've learned anything from the gun control and abortion debates, it's that experts and statistics can be manipulated to whatever end is desired.

107 posted on 12/12/2002 4:20:11 PM PST by xsrdx
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To: Delphinium
What will the loss of the elk and deer herds do to the grizzly population in Yellowstone? Will this cause the bears to go after cattle also?......inquiring minds!....
112 posted on 12/12/2002 4:44:31 PM PST by Rebelbase
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