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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J

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To: js1138
what about the bunnies?

An interesting question which shows the difference between atheists and Christians. Bunnies do not have a soul, humans do. This sets us apart from the rest of nature and makes human life more valuable and due the respect demanded by God. It is this difference in viewpoint that tells Christians not to be racist, not to kill fellow humans - because they are children of God. The atheist has no such problem and can discriminate as he pleases down to the ultimate of discrimination - killing those he dislikes. When there is no rule, no respect for human beings as human beings, then discrimination, and the ultimate discrimination, mass murder, become options against those who are somehow inconvenient. The racist always tries to belittle those he dislikes and makes them less than human. To a Christian, it is impossible for any human to be less than human, to an atheist, it is very easy. An atheist can just call the object of his hatred a 'lower species' to justify his murderous intent.

1,541 posted on 12/30/2002 6:33:15 PM PST by gore3000
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To: whattajoke
So when was the Bible re-instated into "pubid skooh ejewkayshun so dat it haz to hab dat dis-klaymr?
1,542 posted on 12/30/2002 6:35:23 PM PST by webber
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To: js1138
If fossils are not formed by a gradual process, you will no doubt be able to point us to the recipe that allows making them in the laboratory,

Not true. You do not need a laboratory. The lava from a volcanic erruption will create close to instant fossils - see Pompeii.

1,543 posted on 12/30/2002 6:36:21 PM PST by gore3000
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To: VadeRetro
The eye is a very complex organ, and it CANNOT function without ALL of its parts being in place, that is SIGHT. So why did an animal decided to begin "evolving" making some parts of an eye but could not use it for seeing for millions of years until the complete eye had eventually formed? Did it forsee itself as one day being able to see? How did it know that sight was possible? Oh yeh, it was an oops - accident that became beneficial through caring around unusable tissues for millions of years until VOILA! I CAN SEE! I CAN SEE! Oh how intelligent that sounds. And we creationist are so gullible.......aren't we?
1,544 posted on 12/30/2002 6:40:48 PM PST by webber
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Alas, however, evolutionists are seen to bend over backwards in eliminating certain possibilities thus giving ample demonstration of devolution with respect to the sciences. Ancillary retro shift resulting from ingnorance held with the tenacity of a rabid pit bull.

They certainly do. They always try to avoid the scientific questions. Evolution has never been able to show how evolution occurs or be able to give scientific evidence of the process by which species transform themselves into new species. Their 'holy' bones, to which the Church of Darwin prays, are worse than inconclusive of evolution, they disprove it. The appearance of over 40 totally new body shapes of life (not just species) within some five million years at most (by their own geologists determinations) without predecessor of any kind possible for any of them are a strong argument against evolution. Another strong argument made by the bones is the non-existence of those bones which show the transformations from major classifications to others. Such bones should be everywhere if evolution were true. Instead what we find are big gaps where there should be none. Instead what we find is species which have remained virtually unchanged for hundreds of millions of years.

1,545 posted on 12/30/2002 6:45:19 PM PST by gore3000
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To: js1138
"He reproduced the early atmosphere of Earth that Urey proposed by creating a chamber with only hydrogen, water, methane, and ammonia."

And of course he knew what the correct formula was for the "earyly atmosphere" because he was there and measured the contents of it before he went back into his time machine to re-create it, UM, I mean re-evolve it in the present.....right?

1,546 posted on 12/30/2002 6:48:39 PM PST by webber
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To: webber
The eye is a very complex organ, and it CANNOT function without ALL of its parts being in place, that is SIGHT.

Human eyes? Octopus eyes? Bumblebee eyes? Fish eyes? I suspect all eyes everywhere are "irreducibly complex," but there certainly are many kinds of eyes and all levels of functioning.

So why did an animal decided to begin "evolving" making some parts of an eye but could not use it for seeing for millions of years until the complete eye had eventually formed? Did it forsee itself as one day being able to see? How did it know that sight was possible? Oh yeh, it was an oops - accident that became beneficial through caring around unusable tissues for millions of years until VOILA! I CAN SEE! I CAN SEE!

Am I supposed to educate you on evolution now? You don't know how it works. I'd suggest you find out before you post anything else as dumb as 1544.

Oh how intelligent that sounds.

Whatever it is, you wrote it.

And we creationist are so gullible.......aren't we?

Yes.

1,547 posted on 12/30/2002 6:50:29 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: gore3000; Physicist; VadeRetro; Junior
The lava from a volcanic erruption will create close to instant fossils - see Pompeii

Check this out.

1,548 posted on 12/30/2002 6:51:01 PM PST by js1138
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To: webber
Sounds like another person just figured out what a crock evolutionism is. There's no way vision could evolve.
1,549 posted on 12/30/2002 6:51:05 PM PST by titanmike
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To: gore3000
To a Christian, it is impossible for any human to be less than human...

Exodus 21:20
"If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, (Whole Chapter: Exodus 21 In context: Exodus 21:19-21)

Exodus 21:21
but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. (Whole Chapter: Exodus 21 In context: Exodus 21:20-22)

Exodus 21:32
If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels [ 21:32 That is, about 12 ounces (about 0.3 kilogram) ] of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned. (Whole Chapter: Exodus 21 In context: Exodus 21:31-33)

Leviticus 19:20
" 'If a man sleeps with a woman who is a slave girl promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment. Yet they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed. (Whole Chapter: Leviticus 19 In context: Leviticus 19:19-21)

Leviticus 22:11
But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food. (Whole Chapter: Leviticus 22 In context: Leviticus 22:10-12)

Leviticus 25:44
" 'Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. (Whole Chapter: Leviticus 25 In context: Leviticus 25:43-45)

Leviticus 25:46
You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. (Whole Chapter: Leviticus 25 In context: Leviticus 25:45-47)

1,550 posted on 12/30/2002 6:55:51 PM PST by js1138
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To: viaveritasvita
Excellent point! May I use this quote in private emails?

You can use anything I say as you like, with or without atribution. Just spread the word!

1,551 posted on 12/30/2002 6:56:16 PM PST by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
"Those are facts."

No. those are what YOU think are facts. They can not be empirically reproduced scientifically, so SCIENTICALLY, it is thus only a THEORY. Unless you can scientifically, empirically reproduce what you conjecture, then it's NOT FACT, IT'S THEORY. That's why it's called the "Theory of Evolution", not the "Fact of Evolution".

1,552 posted on 12/30/2002 6:58:14 PM PST by webber
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To: gore3000
"They always try to avoid the scientific questions."

They go much further than this, my friend. They inflict their wishful answers upon the rest of us with demagogery not unlike leftist indoctrination, even using the law to squelch dissenting theories.

1,553 posted on 12/30/2002 6:59:10 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Aric2000
To "get stupid" in evil-lutionist's mind is what rational human beings call becoming enlightened.
1,554 posted on 12/30/2002 7:01:04 PM PST by webber
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To: webber
... it appears your brainwashed ganglia hasn't got it yet, BUT YOU WILL, I promise you, you will.

What the flaming dork are you babbling about? Is that some kind of whacko threat? Or are you getting some kind of sick thrill as you dream of me burning in hell?

1,555 posted on 12/30/2002 7:02:00 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: f.Christian
your definition of logic is missing the word science, or scientific, or empirically derived. WHY?
1,556 posted on 12/30/2002 7:03:58 PM PST by webber
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To: viaveritasvita
A very good way to put it! I had only viewed DNA as proof positive of Intelligent Designer, but I like your connection to "the Word" much better for a pure theological discussion!

DNA shows us more than information though, it shows something which materialists deny to be possible - symbolism. It took mankind thousands of years to abstract from pictorial descriptions the form of conveying thoughts by abstract symbols which we call the alphabet (in fact the Chinese have never reached this point). DNA is symbolic information. It is like the yes/no of a binary computer only it is more advanced in that it has 4 possible meanings at each position. These DNA units are read in threes in order to give a possible 64 different values. These 64 values are translated by RNA into the 20 amino acids which make the proteins of life. Now let's just think how hard it is for a child to learn to read. How much time it takes, how much teaching it takes. So the question that needs to be asked is who taught DNA to write the symbols and who taught the RNA how to read them and translate them into the proper amino acids? There can be no materialist explanation for this.

1,557 posted on 12/30/2002 7:06:26 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Physicist
"I call it a draw".

I call it a draw too. That is, they have to draw all the missing links between species because they don't have an actual body or skeleton of one. They have to hypothesize what it's suppose to look like, based on what they THINK it ate, how they THINK it walked. They don't even have 1/100 of a skeleton of one. They can't even be 100% sure that the pieces of fossilized bones are from the same animal. That's why their ideas always keep changing. Creation never changes. "God created the Heavens & the Earth." He created all life, "Each after it's own kind."

1,558 posted on 12/30/2002 7:11:24 PM PST by webber
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To: viaveritasvita
Also, I may have missed it, but does gore3000 say somewhere on this thread that racism started with Darwin? He doesn't do so in #1369. If not, why the reference to Ham -- I just don't get the connection...??

No I never said it started with Darwin. I did say that Darwin and his theory are racist and that his theory has given an excuse and support for racists and mass murderers. You have to realize that to evolutionists, Darwin is their god (worm-eaten and all) so they consider an attack on him an excuse for attacking Christianity.

1,559 posted on 12/30/2002 7:11:38 PM PST by gore3000
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To: fissionproducts
"Only an idiot would think that science classes should only teach proven facts (scientific principles)."

Let me finish your sentence: and only an idiot, knowing that all science is a theory, would not allow alternative theories to be taught so that one does not become indoctrinated (brainwashed) by theories which they would otherwise believe to be facts since no other viewpoint was allowed in the discussion.

1,560 posted on 12/30/2002 7:17:34 PM PST by webber
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