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To: ArrogantBustard
First off, see post #124.

Let me deal with this one first.

I've even heard "Ministers of Music" use theatrical languange (Stage, House, etc.) to describe the interior of the Church building.

It's the music business lingo, and frankly, since I speak the lingo, with this I don't have a problem. And, yes, we all use room, live, dead, reverb, mike, etc., just like in the regular business. Undisturbed, old churches are great live rooms. Lots of reverbs, you don't have to work too hard as long as they're not carpeted.

The modernists who run Oregon Catholic Press and its subsidiaries, and the National Association of Pastoral Musicians seem to prefer a) insipid, heretical music

Well, yeah, since they write it and can make money on the royalties. Hardly any of it is public domain. Seriously, look though a song book on Sunday and check out the copyright dates.

b) the use of any instrument(s) other than the dreaded organ,

This is a real hang-up of the people who lived through Vatican II who are currently between 45 and 65. I don't understand it myself.

c) any action or physical arrangement which draws personal attention to the various musicians. IOW, they think the Mass is a musical performance; a piece of theatre.

Uh-huh. It's a little hypocritical, actually, considering that "music ministers" are specifically told that Mass is not a performance. Well, only the ones, like me, who insist on polishing the material and using music written by such objectionable people Mozart, Bach, Verdi and the like.
130 posted on 12/11/2002 12:14:16 PM PST by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona; ThomasMore
My dear young lady, you're starting to get me wound up on one of my pet peeves. If I start ranting and raving, please don't take it personally. And in the interests of full disclosure: a) I studied classical piano for several years, but don't pretend in any way to be a professional musician. b) Mrs. Bustard is paid to do church music, so I'm somewhat plugged in.

It's the music business lingo,
Words mean things. A Church is not a Theatre, a Sanctuary is not a stage. Churches and theatres may both be wired with electrical audio equipment and have definable acoustic characteristics; that doesn't make them the same thing. I think it's a sign of, at best, sloppy thinking to use theatrical language when perfectly good eclesiastical languange exists. And yes, old Churches have great acoustical properties. Gee, I wonder why...

I've been looking at copyright notices in missalettes (and Music Issues) for many years. I've noticed the same thing. Can we say "Follow the Money"? And every few years, they revise the lyrics to advance the agenda of the feminists and the anti-God crowd. And renew the copyright.

Hypocritical indeed. ""Music ministers" are specifically told that Mass is not a performance." They sure don't act like it. And no, I'm not talking about those who make good (often, but not always "classical"1) as a "Communion Meditation". More like the ones who insist on cramming their chorus and downbeat-combo-band into the sanctuary; a poor fit both geometrically and liturgically.

AB

1) I use the term very loosely.

142 posted on 12/11/2002 12:40:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Desdemona
Well, yeah, since they write it and can make money on the royalties.

No small point. Paper (with the little recycle symbol on them no less) "missalettes". It is not enough to just put the music there, OCP is unofficially taking control of the liturgy by putting their music in with the Mass in disposable missalettes! Many, many Protestant converts I know absolutely hate this! The Word of God in a disposable package to be renewed every several months via a subscription. Profit motives are definitely in play here.

I also understand that OCP has a team traveling the country leading "classes" for "planners of Liturgy" or whatever they are called, and thereby affecting the Holy Liturgy in many parishes throughout many dioceses throughout the country. Why are the Bishops allowing this to happen? The Holy Liturgy "performances" are being planned by untrained (theologically speaking) "esperts" who have never even read the GIRM, which is the official plan for the Holy Liturgy in the Latin Rite of the Church.

182 posted on 12/11/2002 2:12:41 PM PST by TotusTuus
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