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Whitehouse Christmas Card
www.neteffex.com/wh2002a.gif ^ | Dec. 10, 2002 | ricer1

Posted on 12/10/2002 1:11:05 AM PST by ricer1

I received the 2002 Whitehouse Christmas card (postmarked Crawford, Tx.) and wanted to share it with any and all.


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To: Coleus
<> The "Christams Card" is pathetic, but not as pathetic as those on this thread defending it and the deluded president.

I keep hearing "tolerance" being preached but where is the tolerance for Jesus? "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." I guess we are supposed to have tolerance only for those rejecting Truth.

Jesus is the King. But, we can't dare celebrate His birth. Some reject Him. All the MORE reason to celebrate The Incarnation. He came for EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY those that reject Him. But no, not in America. We can't honor the Real King

But, we Can set aside a day to honor Martin Luther King

One tends to become like those one honors. We reject Jesus but honor MLK.<>

301 posted on 12/11/2002 4:47:55 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
That's the exact reason I wear waders when posting. :o)
302 posted on 12/11/2002 5:05:10 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: CyberAnt
Remember, this card has to go all over the world. Why would you want to intentionally insult someone else's faith? It doesn't take away from your faith. If it does, then you don't have much of a faith.

<> I have never understood the mentality of those who think their Christianity is an "intentional insult" to others. LOL

If you do not confess Jesus before men.....

How in the world does one insult another by being a Christian? Am I supposed to be "insulted" that others follow Mohammed?<>

303 posted on 12/11/2002 5:09:38 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: Miss Marple
Did you get a card?

No. We celebrate Christmas.

304 posted on 12/11/2002 5:11:06 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Richard Kimball
<> During the campaign, in a debate, Bush said Jesus was his favorite philosopher. One, naturally, expects that, if that is true, Bush would proudly note that on the Holyday the Birth of his favorite philosopher is celebrated.<>
305 posted on 12/11/2002 5:12:04 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
This is just unbelievable to me. Nothing is ever good enough for some of these people. It wouldn't matter what he did, there would always be something lacking in their petty minds.
306 posted on 12/11/2002 5:27:25 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: AppyPappy
No. We celebrate Christmas.

Miss Marple asked if you got a card and the above was your response.

Well, I got a card and I celebrate Christmas. What did you mean to imply with your response? That if someone received the card they don't *really* celebrate Christmas? That is the only interpretation I can think of to such a comment. Needless to say, it is an insulting and condescending comment--which you knew.

307 posted on 12/11/2002 5:47:03 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Catholicguy
Jesus is the King. But, we can't dare celebrate His birth.

You may dare not, but I dare, and so do the Bushes. Your assertion that President Bush doesn't "dare" celebrate His birth is baseless and nonsense.

308 posted on 12/11/2002 5:48:29 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
This is just unbelievable to me.

It certainly is to me as well.

Nothing is ever good enough for some of these people.

My favorite so far is, when told that President and Mrs. Bush were the first couple to include scripture in their cards, beginning with last year's card, the cry went up that the quoted verse was from the Old Testament, not the New Testament!

Watch out. If next year's card has a verse from the New Testament it won't be the right one. The criticism will turn be that it should have been Luke instead of Matthew or some such nonsense.

309 posted on 12/11/2002 5:52:20 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: NY Catholic
Theme: Big Govt. & Tax Payers Being played like a piano
310 posted on 12/11/2002 5:53:07 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: cyncooper
I hope you enjoy your "Holiday card".
311 posted on 12/11/2002 6:21:45 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
It wouldn't matter what he did, there would always be something lacking in their petty minds...

<> Of course, that is true, and necessary. Were he not lacking, he would be impeccable. He would be Jesus.

I think it a clear and present danger our President is about to become our Caesar, but, that is just the ranting of one with a petty mind:)<><>

312 posted on 12/11/2002 6:22:16 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: cyncooper
<> Mebbe....I guess we ought to be thankful he fell in love with a Christian...he certainly seems malleable in his choice of churches<>
313 posted on 12/11/2002 6:25:14 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: ricer1; All
Ricer1, I was remiss in thanking you for posting the card for all most to enjoy. I certainly did. Thank you.

Thought I would post this for educational purposes only.

The middle of winter has long been a time of celebration around the world. Centuries before the arrival of the man called Jesus, early Europeans celebrated light and birth in the darkest days of winter. Many peoples rejoiced during the winter solstice, when the worst of the winter was behind them and they could look forward to longer days and extended hours of sunlight.

In Scandinavia, the Norse celebrated Yule from December 21, the winter solstice, through January. In recognition of the return of the sun, fathers and sons would bring home large logs, which they would set on fire. The people would feast until the log burned out, which could take as many as 12 days. The Norse believed that each spark from the fire represented a new pig or calf that would be born during the coming year.

The end of December was a perfect time for celebration in most areas of Europe. At that time of year, most cattle were slaughtered so they would not have to be fed during the winter. For many, it was the only time of year when they had a supply of fresh meat. In addition, most wine and beer made during the year was finally fermented and ready for drinking.

In Germany, people honored the pagan god Oden during the mid-winter holiday. Germans were terrified of Oden, as they believed he made nocturnal flights through the sky to observe his people, and then decide who would prosper or perish. Because of his presence, many people chose to stay inside.

In Rome, where winters were not as harsh as those in the far north, Saturnalia—a holiday in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture—was celebrated. Beginning in the week leading up to the winter solstice and continuing for a full month, Saturnalia was a hedonistic time, when food and drink were plentiful and the normal Roman social order was turned upside down. For a month, slaves would become masters. Peasants were in command of the city. Business and schools were closed so that everyone could join in the fun.

Also around the time of the winter solstice, Romans observed Juvenalia, a feast honoring the children of Rome. In addition, members of the upper classes often celebrated the birthday of Mithra, the god of the unconquerable sun, on December 25. It was believed that Mithra, an infant god, was born of a rock. For some Romans, Mithra's birthday was the most sacred day of the year.

In the early years of Christianity, Easter was the main holiday; the birth of Jesus was not celebrated. In the fourth century, church officials decided to institute the birth of Jesus as a holiday. Unfortunately, the Bible does not mention date for his birth (a fact Puritans later pointed out in order to deny the legitimacy of the celebration). Although some evidence suggests that his birth may have occurred in the spring (why would shepherds be herding in the middle of winter?), Pope Julius I chose December 25. It is commonly believed that the church chose this date in an effort to adopt and absorb the traditions of the pagan Saturnalia festival. First called the Feast of the Nativity, the custom spread to Egypt by 432 and to England by the end of the sixth century. By the end of the eighth century, the celebration of Christmas had spread all the way to Scandinavia. Today, in the Greek and Russian orthodox churches, Christmas is celebrated 13 days after the 25th, which is also referred to as the Epiphany or Three Kings Day. This is the day it is believed that the three wise men finally found Jesus in the manger.

By holding Christmas at the same time as traditional winter solstice festivals, church leaders increased the chances that Christmas would be popularly embraced, but gave up the ability to dictate how it was celebrated. By the Middle Ages, Christianity had, for the most part, replaced pagan religion. On Christmas, believers attended church, then celebrated raucously in a drunken, carnival-like atmosphere similar to today's Mardi Gras. Each year, a beggar or student would be crowned the "lord of misrule" and eager celebrants played the part of his subjects. The poor would go to the houses of the rich and demand their best food and drink. If owners failed to comply, their visitors would most likely terrorize them with mischief. Christmas became the time of year when the upper classes could repay their real or imagined "debt" to society by entertaining less fortunate citizens.

In the early 17th century, a wave of religious reform changed the way Christmas was celebrated in Europe. When Oliver Cromwell and his Puritan forces took over England in 1645, they vowed to rid England of decadence and, as part of their effort, cancelled Christmas. By popular demand, Charles II was restored to the throne and, with him, came the return of the popular holiday.

The pilgrims, English separatists that came to America in 1620, were even more orthodox in their Puritan beliefs than Cromwell. As a result, Christmas was not a holiday in early America. From 1659 to 1681, the celebration of Christmas was actually outlawed in Boston. Anyone exhibiting the Christmas spirit was fined five shillings. By contrast, in the Jamestown settlement, Captain John Smith reported that Christmas was enjoyed by all and passed without incident.

After the American Revolution, English customs fell out of favor, including Christmas. In fact, Congress was in session on December 25, 1789, the first Christmas under America's new constitution. Christmas wasn't declared a federal holiday until June 26, 1870.

It wasn't until the 19th century that Americans began to embrace Christmas. Americans re-invented Christmas, and changed it from a raucous carnival holiday into a family-centered day of peace and nostalgia. But what about the 1800s peaked American interest in the holiday?

The early 19th century was a period of class conflict and turmoil. During this time, unemployment was high and gang rioting by the disenchanted classes often occurred during the Christmas season. In 1828, the New York city council instituted the city's first police force in response to a Christmas riot. This catalyzed certain members of the upper classes to begin to change the way Christmas was celebrated in America.

In 1819, best-selling author Washington Irving wrote The Sketchbook of Geoffrey Crayon, gent., a series of stories about the celebration of Christmas in an English manor house. The sketches feature a squire who invited the peasants into his home for the holiday. In contrast to the problems faced in American society, the two groups mingled effortlessly. In Irving's mind, Christmas should be a peaceful, warm-hearted holiday bringing groups together across lines of wealth or social status. Irving's fictitious celebrants enjoyed "ancient customs," including the crowning of a Lord of Misrule. Irving's book, however, was not based on any holiday celebration he had attended—in fact, many historians say that Irving's account actually "invented" tradition by implying that it described the true customs of the season.

Also around this time, English author Charles Dickens created the classic holiday tale, A Christmas Carol. The story's message—the importance of charity and good will towards all humankind—struck a powerful chord in the United States and England and showed members of Victorian society the benefits of celebrating the holiday.

The family was also becoming less disciplined and more sensitive to the emotional needs of children during the early 1800s. Christmas provided families with a day when they could lavish attention—and gifts—on their children without appearing to "spoil" them.

As Americans began to embrace Christmas as a perfect family holiday, old customs were unearthed. People looked toward recent immigrants and Catholic and Episcopalian churches to see how the day should be celebrated. In the next 100 years, Americans built a Christmas tradition all their own that included pieces of many other customs, including decorating trees, sending holiday cards, and gift-giving. Although most families quickly bought into the idea that they were celebrating Christmas how it had been done for centuries, Americans had really re-invented a holiday to fill the cultural needs of a growing nation.

History Channel

314 posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:37 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Catholicguy
I think it a clear and present danger our President is about to become our Caesar, but, that is just the ranting of one with a petty mind:)

Caesar, now? That's a new one. Hadn't heard that one before.

Well, at least now I know where you're coming from.

315 posted on 12/11/2002 6:40:37 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: AppyPappy
Thank you. I was very pleased to receive the card.
316 posted on 12/11/2002 6:41:16 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Dane
Personally, I think it is a appropriate card, understated and humble, just like the First Family.

IMO, if this card was sent out not to "offend" any religion and to be PC, then I am sorry I do not agree with this. If given the choice of offending " anyone" or offending Jesus and his birth, take a guess who I would offend .

BTW, the OT ends with the birth of "Jesus". He was not accepted as the Saviour, why not some scripture from the NT ?????? I rarely see any quotes from the NT here on FR... why not ???

317 posted on 12/11/2002 6:41:45 AM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: cyncooper
All I got was a rock
318 posted on 12/11/2002 6:42:14 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: lonestar
I only asked because my Brother-in law was a Sr. Intel. Anylist in the bush I white house.

My family received the WH Christmas card for 4 years.

We were told there were a limited number each staffer was allowed to add to the list.

I was only wondering if you or a family member were employed there.
319 posted on 12/11/2002 6:43:22 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: AppyPappy
LOL, better luck next year, Charlie Brown!
320 posted on 12/11/2002 6:46:02 AM PST by cyncooper
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