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To: Angelus Errare
Hey, I never say anything bad about any Jew. That is just Luis's spin. He likes playing the those types of cards.

I believe what the Bible says about this. The Jews worship Jehovah. They do not worship Allah the moon god.

Genesis 12:1  ¶Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2  And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

That blessing only comes through Isaac's line, not the line of the servant's child.
257 posted on 12/16/2002 9:03:09 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael
No, but your logic is rather inconsistent in regards to your belief that Judaism is an "acceptable" religion whereas Islam is the religion of "an antichrist."

You cited 1 John 2:22, 1 John 4:3, and 2 John 1:7 as your "proof texts." I simply pointed out that I interpreted them as referring to Gnosticism, an early Christian heresy established by Simon Magus that posed a serious threat to the early Church. The Gnostics believed that Jesus was not human at all but rather a pure spirit and that the material world was innately evil, as was the God of the Old Testament.

I then pointed out that Jews don't believe that the Messiah has come in the flesh or accept the divinity of Jesus. By applying the same standard that you use against Islam (ignoring the alleged Qur'anic calls to violence just for the moment) to Judaism, this would seem to indicate that Judaism (at least the post-30 AD variety) is also a religion of the/an antichrist.

It strikes that your logic and exegesis, if applied consistently, leave you in a rather sticky mess because you, like myself and Luis, support Israel. So it is not at all unreasonable to ask you to explain why Judaism is not a religion of an antichrist and Islam is with Scriptural criteria to back up your claims or for you to denounce Judaism with the same invectives that you hurl against Islam.

Either Judaism believes that Jesus is the Christ and came in the flesh or it does not. And to quote you in #76:

"It isn't hate to expose what a huge group of people believe. It's common sense."

Is it unfair to ask that you exercise this common sense in regard to Judaism?
260 posted on 12/16/2002 9:15:34 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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