[maro]

If you are referring to post 57, the mumbo jumbo in it is a QUOTE from Voegelin. If you think any of this stuff means anything, please state it in straight-forward fashion. P(X), P(Y), P(Z). I think Roger Scruton has proved that it is possible to restate philosophical arguments in simple, declarative sentences. By the way, I immediately suspect all "philosophical" writing that spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling on what other people wrote. That smacks of arguments from authority, and the days when a sentence from Aquinas or the Bible could defeat any rational argument.

[betty boop]

If this stuff is really mumbo jumbo, then why the passionate reaction? If you really believe this is mumbo jumbo, you could just have yourself a good chuckle and pass on by....