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a democrat president ( elected in 2004

Like who? Americans like and trust Bush and his family. Which Dem is either likeable or able to pull the wool over our eyes like clintoon did?
There would have to be a serious failure in the war on terrorism AND a crumpling economy to give any one of the current crop of Dem contenders a chance against Bush.

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Like who? Americans like and trust Bush and his family. Which Dem is either likeable or able to pull the wool over our eyes like clintoon did?

Bush's father was well liked
NOBODY predicted a Clinton in 92 or a Carter in 76 .
They were both disasters and non entities as governors who came out of NOWHERE