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History never was a strong suit of the DUMPos, that is why they want to re-write it every chance they get.

You may not be re-writing history, because what you wrote is true...as far as it goes. The problem is that you ignore the part when Republicans perminantly lost the black vote. It is ironic that you are accusing the democrats of doing what you are doing. Goldwater Republicanism placed republicans squarely on the wrong side of the civil rights issues. It was stupid. He (Goldwater) was trying to win white southern votes, which he did not do. But he did accomplish perminantly alienating the black vote. Things would have come along much faster for Republicans had Goldwater been on the other side of this issue. We have been playing catch-up ever since.

I agree with you. And what is really annoying about this is that Goldwater was for most of the Civil Rights movement. He had objections with some of the implementation components of the Act of 1964, and he voted against it while the Republicans were voting for it. And then Goldwater compounded this by trying to be fuzzy on the issue for the very reason you said (this is my opinion of why, not a fact I can substantiate).

At one time MLK considered Goldwater an ally. But after Goldwater's presidential campaign, we Republicans were reduced to getting single digit support from blacks, and we still are stuck there.

Wasn't ignoring anything. A single member does not define a party.

Yes you are right about Goldwater. Goldwater was not a high point for the Rs. He was appealling to the white southern racist voters, who were for the most part were Ds which is why he came on with the positions and speech lines he used.

The media seized on Goldwater, the demos saw their chance, and twisted it around and made it for the most part stick to the R's, even though people like me never bought the Goldwater line. This was a case of the Rs not responding to charges which they assumed were so outrageous the public wouldn't buy, but did.

Today this is what is killing the Ds, the Rs are responding BIG TIME, AND for the first time the responses are effective ... and the public is finally seeing the truth. Why do you think they are whinning like stuck pigs???

I was referring to the DEMO party as a whole. The Ds owned the KKK racist south. Once you got a knock on the door and the people knocking asked 'who you gonna vote for', you knew the score.

Each party has their share of kooks and fools. But the Rs don't institutionalize there kooks like the Ds did and still do.

snooker

I think you may be equally wrong in your judgement regarding Goldwater.

As I remember it, FDR claimed the majority of black voters throughout the country for his party. Truman cemented that bias around '47. Kennedy was enthroned in part because they could 'count on' black votes.
(While things such as the original Civil Rights Act and Eisenhower and even Nixon's roles in expanding civil rights remain conveniently over-looked.)

Goldwater made an even greater mistake than Lott seems to have done: he actually said what he intended to do while his opponent did not. Goldwater scared conservatives as well as liberals, not with his civil rights views but with the prospect of a war in Indo China that Johnson happily continued to expand despite all the liberal talk of peace in our time. He, in turn, did not realize that his old party of social liberals had turned so sharply left that it would abandon him as well.