Currently being taught in colleges near you.
The quote thrown around is "Democracy means government by discussion, but it is only effective if you can stop people talking." -- Clement Atlee, British Lord.
Some of the "intellectual" underpinnings of Campaign Finance Reform.
1 posted on
12/06/2002 11:55:53 AM PST by
bvw
To: bvw
I heard recently, and it struck a cord of truth with me, that the solution to objectionable free speech, is more free speech.
To: bvw
The First Amendment:
The Right to Write and to your Rites.
To: bvw
I always get nervous when the feeble minds of this century betake themselves to improve on the genius of our forefathers. The First Amendment is just fine as it is, and as it has survived these 200 years, with its free speech provisions intact.
I'm much more concerned about the Establishment Clause, in whose name so many outrages have been committed against the church.
4 posted on
12/06/2002 12:15:42 PM PST by
IronJack
To: bvw
The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law [...]abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;..."
Now, it would take a judicial Houdini to find some way of legally restricting the freedom of speech, or of the press.
To: bvw
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." -- Voltaire
To: bvw
Get democracy out of it, A Constitutional Republic which is what we are is what eliminates the "mob rule" interferrence!
Then we can freely debate the issue of Free Speech. A Representative form of Government best serves our intrests. The principle of Free Speech is a guaranteed Right of the Republic for which it stands.
8 posted on
12/06/2002 12:29:25 PM PST by
wharfrat
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Sunstein is simply a representative of the totalitarian academic left that wants to justify free speech restrictions on conservatives and traditional religious believers.
To: bvw
"The First Amendment, understood in this light, is not so much a matter of protecting rights as ensuring sound public judgment through the process of public deliberation." Maybe free speech is just a collective right after all (but not the Republican collective, just the progressive one).
Here comes the "true meaning" of a set of very simple concepts, set forth by people who wanted to ensure that individual rights trumped the exigencies of temporary governors.
The very first freedom: Say-write-publish whatsoever you will.
The second: Carry effective weaponry to ensure continuation of the first.
11 posted on
12/06/2002 5:40:21 PM PST by
kcar
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Sunstein proposes what he calls a "New Deal" for speech, Anyone who considers "New Deal" an apt analogy for the reforms they propose is no friend of liberty. This despicable leftist is just another brazen example of the idiots that populate academia; it's not free speech that has a "problem", but rather that too often those that most loudly exercise it are not qualified to opine on the weather, much less on serious issues. The absence of counter-speech to the likes of the NYT and their liberal cronies in universities and the media is alarming, and it is fortunate that the internet remains a free-for-all.
To: bvw
Freedom of expression: Next to Man's God granted right to own and dispose of his property and to worship his God, a first (or perhaps now the) last remaining line of defense against statism.
Small wonder the Liberals now seek to "redefine" it. No doubt some redefinitions will prove more equal than others.
To: bvw
Definition of free speech according to Sunstein and his ilk:
Free Speech is that which I approve of.
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