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To: SJackson
In one of my previous programs, I said that I think that this conquest would not be by the sword or armies, but by preaching and ideology. Europe will see that it suffers from materialistic culture, and will seek an alternative, it will seek a way out, it will seek a lifeboat. It will find no lifesaver but the message of Islam the message of the muezzin who gives it religion but does not deny it this world, brings it to Heaven, but does not uproot it from Earth. Allah willing, Islam will return to Europe and the Europeans will convert to Islam. Then they themselves will be able to be the ones to disseminate Islam in the world, more than we ancient Muslims. This is within Allah's capabilities."

Pardon me for being naive, but why is this so offensive? Christian missionaries proslytize all over the world, and we all defend their right to do so. This particular islamic cleric is advocating the peaceful conversion of Europe. I see nothing immoral or alarming in that.

Now, to the extent he or others advocate the violent conquest of Europe, that's an entirely different matter. But that's not what this article says.

9 posted on 12/05/2002 7:30:13 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead
There is only ONE true religions, Christianity. We will conquer Islam and destory it.
18 posted on 12/05/2002 7:46:58 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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To: XJarhead
There is only ONE true religion, Christianity. We will conquer Islam and destory it.
19 posted on 12/05/2002 7:47:06 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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To: XJarhead
Pardon me for being naive, but why is this so offensive? Christian missionaries proslytize all over the world, and we all defend their right...

Do they really? Have you tried being a Christian in Sudan, Pakistan , or Indonesia lately? They're being murdered by Muslims.

How about applying for a missionary job of any faith but the Wahibbi version of Islam in Saudi Arabia? Hint, they don't let them in and Sudanese Christians are enslaved by Muslim nothern Sudanese. Try a little reading.

24 posted on 12/05/2002 8:16:37 PM PST by xJones
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To: XJarhead
This particular islamic cleric is advocating the peaceful conversion of Europe. I see nothing immoral or alarming in that.

Don't mistake Mohammadenism for Christianity.

In the article "this particular cleric" states that, "[Christians] will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam..."

This is straight out of the Koran:

Surah 9:29

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia entry under Mohammed and Mohammedanism:

In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imâm. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the "Infidel". Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.

54 posted on 12/06/2002 5:21:05 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: XJarhead
Pardon me for being naive, but why is this so offensive? Christian missionaries proslytize all over the world...

Naive is fixable; stupid is forever.

No one else proselytizes with dynamite and homicide bombers.

87 posted on 12/06/2002 12:40:10 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: XJarhead
It is offensive because they are lying punks who ALWAYS use violence when they can get away with it. Will they stop killing apostates?

Now they speak of peace because they are weak and don't want to alarm the sleeping inhabitants who (like you?) will take them at their word until it is too late and the killings start. At first it will be killing Jews and destroying synagogues. Several have been attacked in Europe in recent months. This is the beginning and will intensify if not stopped dead.

Examine the history of this religion it always prided itself on being a religion of war and warriors. Mohammed himself lead moslem armies to attack unbelievers. This is not hidden history but evident and oh, too obvious. How do you think that Syria, Iraq, Eygpt, Turkey, India etc became Islamic? Or Spain, or the Balkans? Hint: look at the Koran or the Saudi flag.
144 posted on 12/09/2002 7:16:13 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: XJarhead
Pardon me for being naive, but why is this so offensive? Christian missionaries proslytize all over the world, and we all defend their right to do so. This particular islamic cleric is advocating the peaceful conversion of Europe. I see nothing immoral or alarming in that.

For one thing, what they advocate, Sharia Law, is anything but peaceful. If Islam became a majority, "infidels" would be oppressed and slaughtered. I don't think you will find any religions to be more intolerant, violent or backwards than Islam. You will not find Christian missionaries preaching that anyone should pay a religion tax, that Jews or even Muslims should be killed. I would imagine that Jim Jones was peaceful in building his cult. Look what it got them. I find any form of spreading Islam or any other violent cult grossly offensive.

159 posted on 11/13/2003 9:55:14 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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