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Interstellar Signal from the 70s Continues to Puzzle Researchers (WOW signal)
Space.Com ^ | 12/05/02 | Seth Shostak

Posted on 12/05/2002 4:26:32 PM PST by Brett66

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To: PoorMuttly
One Jansky = 10 -26 W m -2 Hz -1

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21 posted on 12/05/2002 6:44:03 PM PST by Salman
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To: Brett66
Like, WOW
22 posted on 12/05/2002 6:44:51 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Salman
I'll see your Jansky, and raise you a Quark and a half.
23 posted on 12/05/2002 6:47:59 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: xrp
The Universe is MAN'S playground, given to us by the L-rd Himself.

Arrogant beyond belief.

24 posted on 12/05/2002 7:00:37 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: xrp
I get a kick out of SETI and the ET crowd. Don't get me wrong, I love science fiction, but I just refuse to believe that other world beings have visited this planet and have no left a single credible shred of evidence behind.

I get a kick out of people that ramble on but don't have clue. SETI has nothing to do with anyone visiting earth or flying saucers. They are looking for intelligent signals being emitted from the far reaches of the universe.

25 posted on 12/05/2002 7:17:13 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Brett66
The signal read, "Michigan by 6."
26 posted on 12/05/2002 7:24:17 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: enfield
Manking being the only intelligence in the universe is a very sad thought. And, IMO, irrationally anthropocentric.
28 posted on 12/05/2002 8:51:07 PM PST by gcruse
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To: xrp
but I just refuse to believe that other world beings have visited this planet and have no left a single credible shred of evidence behind.

The Universe is MAN'S playground, given to us by the L-rd Himself.

Not trying to start a religous debate here, but that's kind of an ironic conclusion.

29 posted on 12/05/2002 9:14:58 PM PST by sixmil
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To: Centurion2000
That would be just like humans to miss the phone call :)

Heck, the "SETI Crowd" only *sent* one intentional message outbound. And that was back in 1974.

(Arecibo Message)

So missing that one "phone" call would be that hard to do.

However, NORAD, in particular, and a few other countries in general, constantly send out these high powered radar pulses looking for nasty, inbound ICBMs...

Unless the really nearby people are extremely wave-length deaf, you may have to wait a bit longer for any response.

30 posted on 12/05/2002 9:26:12 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
The response last year by crop glyph in England, right on the Observatory grounds, to our Arecibo transmission in 1972, which was not merely an echo or mirror of what we sent, but sent an altered response back to us, saying where they were, what they looked like, and the like...

is nowhere mentioned in this thread.

31 posted on 12/05/2002 9:34:12 PM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Fine. Here's an address: http://www.artbell.com/hoagland3.html
32 posted on 12/05/2002 10:02:35 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Brett66
. . .(in the constellation of Sagittarius) where the "Big Ear" was pointing when it found the ‘Wow’ signal.

I've always wondered about this since the galactic center happens to lie in the direction of Sagittarius. In other words, was the 'Big Ear' telescope pointed right at the galactic core that night? I've never heard.

Of course, it could be just a coincidence. But there are lots of mega-energetic things going on in the vicinity of the galactic core that we don't understand and rather than attributing 'Wow' to ET, we've got to keep in mind that the signal may have a previously undiscovered natural origin. (Just don't ask me how a natural phenomenon could emit a narrow-band burst!)

Either way, natural or artificial, it was a pretty nifty observation. Too bad they can't duplicate it. I'm glad they're not giving up.

33 posted on 12/05/2002 11:37:31 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Brett66
http://www.s-t.com/daily/11-99/11-10-99/l01ae067.htm

Ferris makes his case about life ... somewhere out there

Photo By John Rogers, Associated Press writer

There's a "Saturday Night Live" gag going back more than 20 years that still makes Timothy Ferris chuckle.
It seems those crazy Voyager folks put a bunch of Earth music on a record in 1977 and blasted it into outer space hoping that someone would be listening.

"Everything from Beethoven to Chuck Berry" was included, the story goes, and almost immediately it raised a reply in Martian-speak. When the folks at NASA finally translated it, it said:
"Send more Chuck Berry!"

That's the kind of attitude Timothy Ferris hopes people who see his new two-hour PBS documentary, "Life Beyond Earth," might have. Playful, irreverent and open to the possibility that maybe there are a few Chuck Berry fans out there, just waiting for a recording of "Johnny B. Goode" to float by.
"What I'm always most interested in doing in a film like this is in reaching people who don't think of themselves as interested in science," says Ferris, who produced the Voyager spacecraft record that "SNL" spoofed.
"It's most gratifying when you can find someone who isn't interested in science and take them down a path of learning."
It's the same path his parents took their 12-year-old son down in 1956 when they bought a $32 telescope and sent him out to the back yard with it.
"It was a terrible telescope," he remembers with a laugh. "No one could see anything through it except me and I couldn't see all that much. To change powers you had to take the eyepiece apart."
Still, when he saw Mars through the thing, he was hooked.
"Astronomy is kind of an amazing pursuit," he muses all these years later. "It became the central interest of my life, I guess."
So much so that the University of California, Berkeley, professor emeritus and former writer and editor for Rolling Stone magazine has written nine books on the subject, including, "Coming of Age in the Milky Way," which was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize. In 1985 he released the PBS documentary, "The Creation of the Universe."
His latest film, airing on PBS stations from 8 to 10 tonight, divides its subject matter into two parts.
The first, somewhat slower hour looks at how life evolved on Earth, setting the stage for the second half, in which Ferris and others take up the idea that if intelligent life could develop here, then why wouldn't it develop somewhere else?
Not everyone, of course, agrees. So to shoot down his critics' contention that if intelligent life forms really were out there they would have dropped in and said hello by now, Ferris at one point during the film dons a tux and sits down to a candlelight lobster dinner. The only thing missing is the lobster. But he's sure, he says, that if one is out there it will walk through the door sooner or later. When it doesn't, he still refuses to concede that it doesn't exist.
"Lobster have their own agenda," he tells the viewer. "They don't want to come to my house.
"I have an opinion, which is that life is abundant in the universe and that intelligent life is abundant as well," he says in a phone interview. "Of course my opinion is worth no more than anyone else's. What I'm optimistic of is that we're now really entering a period where it will be possible to replace these opinions with facts."
Only recently, he notes, has science discovered there are stars out there that have their own planets, just like our sun.
"That's a case of moving from an assumption to something that is inevitable," he says. "But we cannot yet take a picture of any of those planets."
What's more, he says, we aren't close to having the rocket power to travel the distances required to visit them. And perhaps neither do the life forms that may occupy them. "That would take enormous time and expense," he says.
So the best hope of finding someone out there, he concludes, is by sending out radio messages, something the Earth has only been doing for about a century. Add on a few more centuries, he says, and those messages might finally begin to reach somebody who will reply.
So when we finally find life in another galaxy we won't be communicating with it face-to-face but in some form closer to a telephone conversation.
"I don't know if there will ever be a lot of handshakes," Ferris says seriously.
Then he adds playfully: "Maybe that's not bad. Especially when you're dealing with someone who has 14 tentacles for hands."


Photo by The Associated Press
Timothy Ferris poses beside the Porsche he drives across the Utah desert on a road sectioned to represent the 5 billion years of the Earth's life in "Life Beyond Earth."

34 posted on 12/06/2002 5:15:01 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: RadioAstronomer
Ummm... SETI has absolutely NOTHING to do with UFOs. SETI is looking only for a signal thay may be of non natural origin.

Ummm... I know. Pardon me for broadening the thread to very related topics.

35 posted on 12/06/2002 7:34:31 AM PST by ForOurFuture
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To: ForOurFuture
For all the hundreds of thousands of 911-calls, sightings, videos, pictures, and reports, what are the odds that they are all hoaxes and weatherballoons and drunken psychos.

Assembling a large quantity of noise does not guarantee the presence of a signal.

36 posted on 12/09/2002 6:50:45 AM PST by steve-b
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