[McGavin999]

Well, the peace loving version is what WE call moderate, not what THEY call moderate. It's probably a lot larger then you think, they just have no way of communicating that to the rest of the world.

It's pretty tough to speak out when the media isn't paying any attention to you, and especially hard when the bad guys have the guns and you don't. (Interesting note: England is beginning to understand what happens when the thugs have guns and the people don't)

We are learning that fact by what's happening in Iran right now with the students and the people finally beginning to stand up after 20 years under Islamic rule. If you get the opportunity, read some of the Iran List threads that have been posted here. You will find significant reason for hope.

[F16Fighter]

"The peace loving version is what WE call moderate, not what THEY call moderate. It's probably a lot larger then you think, they just have no way of communicating that to the rest of the world...It's pretty tough to speak out when the media isn't paying any attention to you..."

The White House would be MORE than happy to provide as much a platform as these "moderates" need. Any bigger stage than that? And Dubya himself would be willing set up the mikes personally. Since we have heard little from the so-called Moslem "moderates" thus far, I for one question it's numbers.

"We are learning that fact by what's happening in Iran right now with the students and the people finally beginning to stand up after 20 years under Islamic rule. If you get the opportunity, read some of the Iran List threads that have been posted here. You will find significant reason for hope."

I concur, Iran is the best chance for secular democracy to one day control a traditional Islamic country. There happen to be many who remember the pseudo-freedom they enjoyed under the Shah...