Bush Marks End of Ramadan, Visits Mosque (Islam brings hope and comfort)

ap ^ | 12/5/2002 | SCOTT LINDLAW

[eskimo]

I suspect that even if every moderate Muslims condemned the radicals, it wouldn't be enough.

You seem to be indicating that Muslim radicals are the majority.

How then can you justify your support of the Bush kid's political maneuver in defining that group as peaceful?

[TLBSHOW]

SHOW, having seen a picture of you, I can understand how you would take the destruction of a McDonald's as a violation of the sacred!

That post of yours is the kind of posts I get from the likes of William Pitt.

[A. Pole]

Is he lying? Islam, the way it is observed by 98% of Muslims in the world, IS peaceful.

Two percent of population being soldiers is more than sufficient. For example American army is less than 5 million.

[Sir Gawain]

One of them told me that these statements are "Medina statements," which are meant for a specific place and time that has already passed.

Source?

[Jhoffa_]

Yeah, and trying to equate the two only makes you look foolish.

No, it's a valid point..

There are passages where the Jews are told to kill men, women and children.. even the animals of their enemy.

In the hands of a skilled propagandist that kind of thing can be used to incite hatred. That's why you see these guy's hitching their cart to Islam's horse.

Repeating the violent stuff only makes their point for them.

Their sermon is being delivered in absentia and credibility is being given to Osama's claim that all of Islam is being targeted by "the infidels" In short: You are carrying Osama's water on this.

[sinkspur]

I love ya, SHOW. You know that.

Don't follow the herd in condemning every Muslim over the actions of a few.

[fogarty]

And Bush also needs to go to meet the heirs of Anton Levay and take part in the various animal sacrifices the Satanists give. Bush after all, is a friend to all 'religions of peace' - especially ones that slaughter Americans and skin Christians alive.

[TLBSHOW]

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[Sir Gawain]

If that's the case, why did Christians not turn out the same for reading the Old Testament as these Muslims have for reading the Koran?

[rintense]

I asked my Muslim friend about the exact versus you quote from the Koran. She said that the Muslims she knows understand that it was written long ago and applied to times back then- not now. She said in her Mosque, no one believes these passgaes apply to modern times.

[sinkspur]

Source?

I gave you the source. It's my practicing Muslim neighbor.

It makes sense to me. That's why he ignores the bullshit about "killing infidels."

It's why Christians ignore the specific commands that God gave the Jews in the Old Testament.

They don't apply to us, any more.

[Jhoffa_]

If that's the case, why did Christians not turn out the same for reading the Old Testament as these Muslims have for reading the Koran?

By the same token, why haven't all Muslims realized Osama is right and joined in his Jihad?

[rintense]

No, I am indicating that the radicals are in the majority, and that the majority of Muslim ARE peaceful people.

I don't have to justify what the President does. I know what I believe based on my own life experiences with Muslim friends, just as I know that all Christians aren't perfect either. He could believe as you do and I would disagree with him.

Just so happens that I agree with him on this issue.

[Sir Gawain]

She said that the Muslims she knows understand that it was written long ago and applied to times back then- not now. She said in her Mosque, no one believes these passgaes apply to modern times.

Sounds like some Christians that pick and choose which passages to ignore.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Shades of Neville Chamberlain!

[A Navy Vet]

"If foreign Muslims try to take over America, you can bet that there will be LOTS of American Muslims right alongside you and me, fighting for the American way of life."

First of all, "foreign Muslims" ARE trying to take over from within. There are numerous reports of foreign and American Muslims, incuding leadership, of supporting radical Islam in some manner. The authorities are detaining them regularly. A number of Mosques are on the radar screen of late...and we know what some of the Mosques are teaching.

Secondly, it seems the Muslim religion is loyal first to other Muslims around the world and then to their home country. As evil, corrupt, and imperialistic as the Iraqui regime is, daily we see Muslims around the planet rail against our coming war with Saddam simply because it is an Islamic nation. What makes you think there is not a significant number of American Muslims who feel the same way.

Thirdly, at the very least, Islam is mysoginistic which I find abhorrent and savage. I love and respect women and HATE the way they're treated by the Islamic men. They are not lesser beings than men, as the Koran so often points out and the men practice.

Lastly, I agree with President Bush's actions. What a huge mistake it would be to further inflame resentment towards the Muslim population. It will build on its own, unfortunately.

[cmsgop]

Well Said Right Here!!!!!

In the hands of a skilled propagandist that kind of thing can be used to incite hatred.

Nail, Head, and all that .......Well Done Jhoffa........

[rintense]

You still have not quoted WORD FOR WORD what you accused Powell of saying.

[Jhoffa_]

Sounds like some Christians that pick and choose which passages to ignore.

Well, WTF?

You want to kill the Jihadders and then condemn the rest for not helping them?

What the hell kinda logic is that?

[Sir Gawain]

I gave you the source. It's my practicing Muslim neighbor.

It makes sense to me. That's why he ignores the bullshit about "killing infidels."

It's why Christians ignore the specific commands that God gave the Jews in the Old Testament.

They don't apply to us, any more.

No, how does this Muslim know these statements no longer apply? Anyone with any common sense can read the OT and see who and what God is talking about when He is giving commands. The statements in the Koran are in the general sense, so where are the context clues that show it was talking about a specific situation?