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Ruling: Second Amendment does not provide an individual right to own or possess guns
California Appellate Court via Met News ^
| 12/5/02
| Allan J. Favish
Posted on 12/05/2002 3:27:53 PM PST by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish
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To: sailor4321
Illegal.
Same Mini 14, but with different stock and grip. Same damn cartridge: .223. Same semi-auto, gas operated rifle. Both Ar and Mini feed from a detachable magazine. Assinine laws.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:36:42 PM PST
by
45Auto
To: sailor4321
It seems to strange to me that when I was 22 the government made me take one of those, but when I turned 44 they wouldn't let me have one if I paid for it myself.You too?
What we fought for was the right of Democrats to do anything they want.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:40:10 PM PST
by
elbucko
To: sailor4321
However, this is LEGAL because it has a fixed mag.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:44:29 PM PST
by
45Auto
To: 45Auto
Same Mini 14, but with different stock and grip. Same damn cartridge: .223...When a woman looks at this model of a mini-14, she see's nothing but an attractive nuisance. Something her kid may think of as cool. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemy.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:49:57 PM PST
by
elbucko
To: elbucko
I suppose, BUT...we are either living in Free Constitutional Republic, or we are not. The Constitution does not say that hysterical women can overrule the Bill of Rights.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:54:08 PM PST
by
45Auto
To: 45Auto
that hysterical women can overrule the Bill of Rights.I agree with you. But they vote before they ever learn to shoot, or learn about the Constitution.
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posted on
12/05/2002 5:58:58 PM PST
by
elbucko
To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Jeff Head; Squantos; wardaddy
Ping. More interesting 2A action.
To: 45Auto
There now exists in this Republic a conspiracy of all three branches of government to deny Constitutional rights when it comes to the 2nd. What recourse is there?BLOAT, cache, and take names!
To: All
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posted on
12/05/2002 6:21:55 PM PST
by
Bob J
To: 45Auto; Joe Brower; wardaddy; Squantos
Did you know that when I took my black fiberglass Choate pistol grip folding stock off of my Mini 14 and put the wood stock back on to make it Kali legal, its muzzle velocity dropped from 3,000 fps to 300 fps?
Now it won't even knock over a can. Totally harmless.
And it will only take ten round magazines, the 30 rounders won't fit any more.
Miraculous how that happened. Those legislators are geniuses.
To: FreedomPoster
Thanks for the bumpage!
To: AJFavish
The 9th Circuit Court can put their boots in the oven but that won't make-em biscuits.
To: AJFavish; CWW
CWW, feel free to pick my comments apart.
Here is my favorite quote from this stupid ruling.
"We also agree that the enitre subject of the meaning of the Second Amnedment deserves more consideration than we, or the Supreme Cour, have thus far been able (or willing) to give it."
Well at least they admit they weren't willing to do the scholarly work the Fifth Court did in the Emerson decision (which they note in the next paragraph. "... there is the recent Emerson decision in which the Fifth Ciruit, after analyzing the opinion at length, concluded that he Supreme court's decision in Miller did not resolve the issue of theemendment's meaning. The Emerson court then canvassed the pertinent scholarlsip and historical materials, and held that he Second Amendment does establish and individual right to possess arms..."
They, if I'm reading this correctly admit to not doing scholary work when researching the meaning of the decision thus ignoring the Apellent's Second Ammendment arguement and then saying since the Apellent has no Individual Right to possess firearms the Fourth Ammendment doesn't apply.
To: sailor4321
the 9th circuit court actually asked for the decision from that mensa woman who knows everything... she posted her decision and since she knows everything, they ruled that way...
i wish i could remember her name, it would have made the joke a bit more laughable.... or even funny...
i guess you had to be there.
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posted on
12/05/2002 8:20:48 PM PST
by
teeman8r
To: teeman8r
Perhaps Marilyn Von Savant, the world's smartest person.
To: secretagent
Correction: Marilyn Vos Savant
To: sailor4321
Unless I read the ruling wrong I think they tossed the part giving and exeption to retired police officers. It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong so maybe I read it wrong.
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To: Travis McGee
Did you know that when I took my black fiberglass Choate pistol grip folding stock off of my Mini 14 and put the wood stock back on to make it Kali legal, its muzzle velocity dropped from 3,000 fps to 300 fps? What did you do with the extra stock? Build a folding lamp for you reading chair?
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