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HOLD THE LARD!: The Atkins Diet still doesn't work
Reason.com ^ | Dec. 5 2002 | Michael Fumento

Posted on 12/05/2002 3:22:43 PM PST by Senator Pardek

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To: StockAyatollah; Doctor Raoul; Ann Coulter
Will somebody please buy Ann Coulter a steak!

I have eaten Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner with Annie, on 3 different dates, and she eats normal, trust me. She even cleans the plate.

121 posted on 12/05/2002 8:15:06 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Well, Jael, the wife of Heber the Kenite,.....

Well, a man well versed in the Scriptures! Were I looking for a husband, that would be number one or two on my list of most important qualities. I salute you. :-)

Thanks for the comments on the Atkins.

Hope you feel better soon.

122 posted on 12/05/2002 8:19:25 PM PST by Jael
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To: RaceBannon
"Will somebody please buy Ann Coulter a steak!"

I have eaten Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner with Annie, on 3 different dates, and she eats normal, trust me. She even cleans the plate.

I have a tall thin 49 year old female friend. She eats like a horse -- but runs it off at least 4 miles almost every day.

123 posted on 12/05/2002 8:28:51 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Senator Pardek
Only healthy way to lose weight and keep it off is push away from the table and exercise.
124 posted on 12/05/2002 8:33:43 PM PST by stanz
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To: RaceBannon
I have eaten Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner with Annie, on 3 different dates, and she eats normal, trust me. She even cleans the plate.

My dear, weren't you the one complaining above about not being able to get a date? I suspect you are about to be a most envied man.

125 posted on 12/05/2002 8:33:56 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Howlin
Reports of your death have been greatly exaggerated.
126 posted on 12/05/2002 8:46:08 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Vinnie
You are on solid ground, incorporating the four basic food groups: sugar, fat, starch and salt. Mmmmmmmmmm.
127 posted on 12/05/2002 8:48:23 PM PST by Inkie
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To: Senator Pardek
I'm typing from the Ice Palace. I'm not dead, just frozen!
128 posted on 12/05/2002 8:48:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Inkie
This diet is not for vegetarians. Since I am one, I prefer the cabbage soup diet. Those two protein days are a bitch, but.
129 posted on 12/05/2002 8:50:01 PM PST by Inkie
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To: Howlin
Sounds like a cool club - what do they charge for a dose of ectasy?
130 posted on 12/05/2002 8:50:14 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
Just the normal $500 homeowners deductible. Oh, and thirty trees.
131 posted on 12/05/2002 8:54:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Senator Pardek
Perhaps all humans aren't identical. Perhaps what works for one, won't work for another. WE ARE NOT ALL CLONES WHO HAVE IDENTICAL DIETARY NEEDS. Multiple genetic and environmental factors have to be taken into account when deciding the best diet for an individual.

Do what you think is best for you and your family. All I know is that the low-carb diet improved ALL the risk factors in my blood work from high to BELOW normal, stopped my hair from falling out, brought back my fertility, cleared up my acne and lowered my blood pressure. (Low carb was a complete cure for my PCOS.)

On the other hand, my mother lives on a diet that is 90% refined sugar and is the healthiest 54 year old that I know. My MIL won't touch the stuff, eats the perfect low-fat diet (has for years) and has high blood pressure, joint problems and heart issues.

132 posted on 12/05/2002 9:00:18 PM PST by Marie
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To: Rye
LOL ...you prove my point brilliantly!

Why can you not understand the point that this whole subject is frustrating for Atkins supporters? All we get is comments like "exercise!", "push away from the table".

All diets do not effect everyone equally. That is our only point. Most supporters will say, "It worked for me." They aren't insisting that everyone follow their way of life.

For 2 1/2 years I had a roomate in college who was skinny as a rail. I was 30 lbs overweight. I wanted to be skinny like she was, and I was on a limited budget. 80% of the time I ate exactly what she ate since we were sharing meals. Similar portions too, since I was sensitive about being fat. She got care packages twice per month filled with candy and cookies. I ate some, but again because of my weight, it was a much smaller amount than what she ate. We both rode bikes 4 miles per day, and did lots of walking.

I never lost any significant amount weight while living with her, and I never gained any significant amount of weight while I was home with my family. This showed me that we must simply be different types of people.

Most of the people in my family get diabetes if they stay fat long enough. I read the Atkins book and it made sense to me. It worked well for me when I stayed on it. Not being a big meat eater, I think I may have to look into another type of low carb diet. One that is a little less stringent and see if it works for me.

133 posted on 12/05/2002 9:04:37 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Marie
(Low carb was a complete cure for my PCOS.)

I'm glad you found a way to be better. I have a couple of friends with PCOS.

134 posted on 12/05/2002 9:06:47 PM PST by Dianna
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To: billbears
I'll say this. I was on the Atkins diet a few months back and lost 12 lbs in about 2 weeks. Stayed on it another 2 weeks and lost an additional 10 lbs. Went off of it and gained every bit back plus 3 in less time.

Well, yeah. Atkins is like any other diet: you can't just go on it for awhile, lose the weight, and expect that it will magically change your metabolism forever so that you can go off of it and remain skinny. With ANY diet, if you depart from it the weight will come back. If I lost weight by eating nothing but lettuce and then resumed eating chocolate cake, I'd gain the weight back, but it wouldn't be fair to blame the lettuce diet. Nor is it fair to blame Atkins if you abandon the diet and then gain the weight back.

I do think there's something to watching the carbs but eating meat all the time gets boring Sure. It's certainly true that eating only meat can be boring, but there are lots of different kinds of meat, prepared lots of different ways. You can also eat chicken, fish, cheese, eggs...

You're only supposed to be on the carb-free part of the diet for a week or so. After that you can start cautiously adding carbs back in. And a piece of cake isn't the end of the world, either. The idea is to avoid adding back the junk carbs that are full of sugar, like white bread, cake, cookies, etc.

135 posted on 12/05/2002 9:14:47 PM PST by Capriole
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To: Dianna
All diets do not effect everyone equally. That is our only point. Most supporters will say, "It worked for me." They aren't insisting that everyone follow their way of life.

Then we appear to have exactly the same point of view. As I already mentioned (but it evidently wasn't comprehended by the poster I responded to above), I'm not "for" or "against" the Atkins diet, and considering its popularity, it must work for not a small number of people. ....And God bless 'em. I was merely commenting on the heated and dogmatic discussion by SOME of the Aktins' advocates. Some.

136 posted on 12/05/2002 9:32:40 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: LurkerNoMore!
Run 20 miles a week, and you can eat all the carbs you want....

Oh, please. It just ain't that easy for a lot of people.

My mother, for example. She developed severe arthritis in her hip and spine and wasn't able to exercise at all, except for a few timid bicep curls. She became quite obese, even while eating a moderate diet (and at the time I was living with the woman and shopping for us, so I know what she consumed). She began Atkins and lost nearly 100 pounds, and kept it off.

Or me, for instance. I'd always been slender and fit, but during my second pregnancy I gained 75 pounds. This was in part because my then-husband (a bio-psychologist) agreed with me that if a kind Nature encouraged a pregnant woman to eat anything that can't outrun her, there was a sound biological reason for that fact, and I should indulge it. But after my son was born, I couldn't lose the weight. A personal trainer devised a training program of aerobic exercise twice a day and weight-lifting, but the weight was immovable. I ran far, far more than just twenty miles a week, I assure you. I was scared and frustrated.

Then I tried Atkins. I lost the weight quite quickly. Now, eight years later, I'm still slender but not skinny, 5'10" and 137, though I no longer have time for a complicated exercise routine. And, yes, sometimes I fall happily off the wagon and have a glass of bourbon or a piece of pie, but it doesn't make any difference.

People need to understand that all bodies are not made alike. Some people respond well to a high-veggie diet; some respond well to Atkins. Men are often different than women. Will everyone kindly stop being so hysterical on the subject?

137 posted on 12/05/2002 9:37:32 PM PST by Capriole
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To: theprogrammer
"There's only one kind of diet that works! It's called the "Low Calorie Diet." It doesn't matter what you get your calories from, it's all thermodynamics. The rest is just smoke and mirrors."

I am a programmer as well and tend to think logically. Unfortunately, the body uses Fat, Protein and Carbs differently. 1000 calories of Carbs != 1000 calories of fat.

139 posted on 12/05/2002 9:56:28 PM PST by Crispy
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To: Eva
Rush claims his diet is a low-fat diet, so apparently not.
140 posted on 12/05/2002 9:58:37 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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