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'Gay' Reaction to Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder: Silence to Applause
Culture and Family Institute/ Concerned Women for America ^ | 12/5/02 | Allyson Smith

Posted on 12/05/2002 12:41:29 PM PST by Polycarp

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To: madg
This murder is not a national political issue.

Give us a little time. Geez.

101 posted on 12/05/2002 3:25:01 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: madg
What makes you think that Gutierrez is "one of their own?"

He's homosexual. They're homosexual advocates.

Why the double standard? If a crazed nut kills an abortion doctor, everyone demands that mainstream pro-lifers condemn his behavior, even though there is obviously no association between them and this type of behavior.

Therefore I see absolutely nothing illogical about demanding homosexual activist groups condemn his acts against this Christian martyr.

103 posted on 12/05/2002 3:32:25 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: What is the bottom line
Regarding homosexual pedophilia, my understanding is that heterosexuals perpetrate pedophilia at a greater rate than homosexuals. There is also a problem with defining pedophilia. If a 19 y.o. boy has sex with a 16 y.o. girl, is that pedophilia? In Tennessee? Is it pedophilia if a 19 y.o. boy has sex with a 16 y.o. boy?

Pedophilia is pre-pubescent sex which does not apply to your example. Pederasty is cross-generational sex--an adult and a post-puberty teen. Both are sick, in my opinion. the 16/19 year old is an issue of age-of-consent.

Basically, if it is same-sex sex it is homosexual, no matter what the activists say.

On the "natural" issue: If an erection is the only qualification then a lot of perversity is "natural." That would provide an excuse for rape, promiscuity, group sex, beastiality, S/M etc...

Forget the issue of religion for a moment. In what way does sex between men fit the evolutionary theory? Does it serve a purpose. In what way is a gay man's anus different than a heterosexual's in order to accomodate his evolved condition? If it were "natural" wouldn't it have some vaginal characteristics? And women: How the heck can they have sex in a way that you can describe as natural and still get defined as "sex" by the Clinton apologist democrats? There is nothing actually natural about it. Lots of people have developed perverse sexual appetites. I'm not saying throw everyone in jail. I'm just saying outspokeness on the moral issues, as well as the health issues, of such behavior should not be treated as the great evil of our time.

106 posted on 12/05/2002 3:38:37 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Polycarp; RnMomof7; Cyrano; MacDorcha; EternalVigilance; RobRoy; Diamond; Tennessee_Bob; Gun142
Unbelieveable... granted it seems the lady was pretty pushy, but I guess it's OK for gays to respond with violence to being asked to explain their behavior?

And then the post from "Iris" nauseating..... abominable.
107 posted on 12/05/2002 3:38:44 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: madg
But there is simply no reason to expect them to comment on a crime simply because the offender was gay.

It is not simply that he was gay. He killed her because he was gay and she was, apparently, trying to persuade him to change that. His homosexuality was the immediate cause, the issue that lead to the crime, just as Matthew Shepard's homosexuality was the issue that led to his murder. If it's wrong to kill people because they're gay, it's just as wrong to kill people because they think and they tell you that being gay is a sin. And if those organizations made an issue of Matthew Shepard's case, it is reasonable to expect them to at least take note of a case which in many senses is its mirror image.

Fred Phelps is a nut and an embarrassment to Christianity. But Fred Phelps is one loon with a tiny collection of supporters. The widespread applause and half-hearted tsk-tsking this murder seems to have received from a wide section of gay America is far more serious.

108 posted on 12/05/2002 3:40:02 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Aquinasfan
ping for Catholics and other Christians!
109 posted on 12/05/2002 3:40:30 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: shaggy eel
forgot to put you in the to: field of that last post.
110 posted on 12/05/2002 3:42:21 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Right Wing Professor
If it's wrong to kill people because they're gay, it's just as wrong to kill people because they think and they tell you that being gay is a sin. And if those organizations made an issue of Matthew Shepard's case, it is reasonable to expect them to at least take note of a case which in many senses is its mirror image.

hear hear!

111 posted on 12/05/2002 3:43:19 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Right Wing Professor
And if those organizations made an issue of Matthew Shepard's case, it is reasonable to expect them to at least take note of a case which in many senses is its mirror image.

To quote the two love birds on this thread,

"Thank you. I tried to make that point earlier. Well put." and "Thank you. You also have an effective and inteeligent way of stating your position."

112 posted on 12/05/2002 3:43:20 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Right Wing Professor
Fred Phelps is one loon with a tiny collection of supporters. The widespread applause and half-hearted tsk-tsking this murder seems to have received from a wide section of gay America is far more serious.

And this is the bottom line. The reason the homo lobby has not denounced this is because they are gleeful over this. "This'll make them Christians think twice next time, hee hee hee."

115 posted on 12/05/2002 3:47:57 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: madg
You seem to complain about how the pro-life groups are treated after a murder... so you turn around and do it yourself?

Ahhh, but you forget one important point: Pro-lifers are morally and ethically fighting to protect innocent human life. Homo activists are fighting to...legalize sodomy.

I do not see any moral equivalence here.

117 posted on 12/05/2002 3:52:55 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: What is the bottom line
right wing lunatic fringe raises what as a serious complaint?
118 posted on 12/05/2002 3:54:20 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: What is the bottom line
A lot of behavior/culture is not innate...it is learned---indoctrinated!
120 posted on 12/05/2002 3:56:18 PM PST by f.Christian
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