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To: Kaiwen
This author is really amazing, he just dances around and around trying to put the west to blame for all of the evils being thrown into our faces.

If it is not a war of religion, than why does the koran make it so? What other holy book preaches the death of all who are not of the faith? What other faith justifies the deaths of innocents by using the words of a long dead prophet?

If it is not a war against their religion, then the ones who are not the fanatics and fundementalists should step forward and help bring it to and end. If you are not with us, youare against us.
11 posted on 12/05/2002 12:04:01 AM PST by Brad C.
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To: Brad C.
If it is not a war against their religion, then the ones who are not the fanatics and fundementalists should step forward and help bring it to and end. If you are not with us, youare against us.

But they almost never do. It's stunning, really. But when you think about it, it isn't. These are the people whom we grew accustomed to accomodating regardless of ideology, which was, to say the least a great mistake, and now must be reversed.

We wouldn't let the Hare Krishnas, or the Nazis get away with this shit, would we?

36 posted on 12/05/2002 1:18:11 AM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: Brad C.
This author is really amazing, he just dances around and around trying to put the west to blame for all of the evils being thrown into our faces.

I don't see that he did that at all. For instance with respect to this:

"The Bush critics say Islam itself is America's enemy because Islamic religion and civilization are intolerant, hostile to Western values, proselytizing, expansionist and violent.

Note that the author, whatever he may privately think, never argued that this perception was necessarily wrong. Instead he confined his argument to the claim that targeting the culture as such is wrong. He further allowed that targeting instead the individuals, institutions and political entities that immediately manifest or promote such qualities (intolerance, hatred & violence) is legitimate, or at least that it is a different matter not suffering from the same illegitimacy as targeting the whole civilization or culture and (imlicitly) all its members. (It is not clear which of the two views the author actually holds.)

44 posted on 12/05/2002 1:42:57 AM PST by Stultis
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