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The Eagle Forum ^ | 12/04/02 | Phylis Schlafly

Posted on 12/04/2002 11:50:11 AM PST by Dutchgirl

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To: Carry_Okie
Thanks. I'll look into this website when I have the time and school myself on your position.

But at first blush, I'll say that "soveriegnty" doesn't mean the unbridled right of the might to run roughshod over the wishes and best interests of the other people on this planet. But maybe I'm too idealistic.

21 posted on 12/04/2002 1:32:44 PM PST by CapedCrusader
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
But don't worry. The drunken, wife beating T-shirt wearing GOP will come back to their conservative spouses again in 2004 and beg for forgiveness....


....and be forgiven. And then the whole abusive cycle will begin again. And on and on and on and on and........
22 posted on 12/04/2002 1:33:24 PM PST by ricpic
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To: CapedCrusader
We need a world-wide dialogue and global resolutions to our problems

What problems in particular are we not truly able to handle on our own or with "dialog" with like minded(ie) "democratic and freedom loving" nations?
The UN is the worst form of democracy, when countries like the Sudan, which uses the euphemism "abduction" for the sale of christian women and children into slavery- actually sits on the UN Human Rights Council! Why the UN? why not dialog with NATO, the WTO, G8 or other loose affiliation that does not presume to chastise the US for its sovereignty?

If your son or daughter were in the military, would you EVER, under any circumstances, trust the UN to deploy OUR troops? If so, please state the circumstances and describe the actions that the UN has taken- in the last decade, to have won your esteem?

23 posted on 12/04/2002 2:11:43 PM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: CapedCrusader
Your view of the UN is what it was intended to be, and was initially sold as. This is like most liberal programs, they have "good intentions".

What you have to look at is the results. The UN has become a group of brutal dictators who prop up other brutal dictators and who constantly seek ways to drain the riches of our successful free society.

24 posted on 12/04/2002 2:17:47 PM PST by MrB
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To: JT_Lancer
I have to say that Bushies "non-cut" of wages for federal employees-- stopping their 18% across the board raise-- is a step in the right direction. The plan to competitively bid and out-source portions of the bureaucracy is another winner. It makes it that much easier to end a progam by cancelling a contract in someone's district, rather than dealing with nationalised unions. I don't mind a few bones thrown to appointees, if the end result is the shrinkage of our government in every area but the military.

If competive bidding is open to religious organizations, then we don't need an office of faith based initiatives. (The Salvation Army pretty much serves as the probation arm of the State of Florida, and we are mighty pleased with the arrangement.)

If vouchers become the wave of the future, we will see the end of the power of teachers unions, and a huge shrinkage of Federal funding for education.

Of course it depends on people holding their elected officials to account...which is another reason I like Eagle Forum. I suspect that somewhere on next weeks list will be tort reform. Beautiful words, I think I'll type them again.
tort reform

25 posted on 12/04/2002 2:31:25 PM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Anybody on the horizon to defeat Finegold?
26 posted on 12/04/2002 2:37:14 PM PST by CPT Clay
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To: CPT Clay
Paul Ryan could beat him, but wont commit to running against the liberal idiot.
27 posted on 12/04/2002 2:48:55 PM PST by myself6
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To: Dutchgirl
Hunger, over-population, industrialization and pollution, to start.

I agree there are egregious flaws, but its the only global court we've got, and it's really not that old. The "global community" in itself is just a baby. Obviously, we need generations to continually work on these problems and rectify injustices.

I just get tired hearing "abandon the UN" and other woefully myopic isolationist hoo-ha.

And, yes, I would trust the UN to deploy my son or daughter. Bosnia, for instance. And I would expect our troops to adhere to the same standard of conduct set for other countries' troops.

28 posted on 12/04/2002 2:49:26 PM PST by CapedCrusader
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To: MrB
Point me to the evidence, MrB.
29 posted on 12/04/2002 2:50:18 PM PST by CapedCrusader
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To: CapedCrusader
Should I rip this guy apart our would someone else enjoy doing it?

Caped Crusader, I really hope you can back up you platitudes.

hehe.


30 posted on 12/04/2002 2:56:19 PM PST by myself6
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
The UN would make an excellent Welfare Hotel for the Homeless.

That would be an improvement considering it's currently a lunatic asylum.

31 posted on 12/04/2002 3:20:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: myself6
Debate and bring it on, myself6. That is if you have the chops.

Do you advocate expelling the US out of the UN and vice versa? If so, why? Evidence, por favor.

I do not and have "backed up my platitudes" with principled belief.

32 posted on 12/04/2002 3:27:45 PM PST by CapedCrusader
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To: CapedCrusader
Hunger, over-population, industrialization and pollution, to start

On 9/11, Harry Belafonte was on "Today", expressing his displeasure with the US for not sending a representative to the UN conference on "racism." Racism, according to the UN, is what America practices by not engaging in dialogue regarding "reparations" to descendants of slaves in the US. "Racism" according to the UN, has nothing to do with the modern day enslavement of christians, or the murder of millions in Rwanda, because these are/were crimes perpetrated by black people on black people.

The UN is morally bankrupt. They have turned a blind eye to genocide to avoid antagonizing petty dictators.

America is no longer committed to a "World Court", thank God for Bush, having the back bone to refuse to sign on to a litigious nightmare.

It is interesting that you believe that the UN, which has proven to be a cesspool of mismanagement and fraud, is the organization best equipped to deal with these problems.

The political response to "over-population" is the one child policy of China. The political response to hunger has been to appease the war lords who feed their armies with UN supplies (Taliban). The problems of industrialization and pollution are actually the same. Emerging nations sacrifice the environment for quick profit and jobs. Being green is a luxury that most third world countries cannot yet afford. The solution, as we are beginning to see in South America, is more industry, to create more wealth so that once the most urgent priority, survival, is taken care of, resources can be conserved. But that is an economic solution, not a political one, and therefore it cannot be embraced by the UN marxists.

as for Bosnia. USA Today, not a conservative publication, described our involvement this way:

NATO in Bosnia: NATO is responsible for patrolling the no-fly zone over Bosnia, designed to stop an air war. NATO airstrikes have been called when U.N. commanders on the ground, their civilian chief and NATO commanders agree on them. On Wednesday, U.N. Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali delegated his authority to the U.N. commander in former Yugoslavia, meaning military men will now decide whether to engage in more vigorous air strikes. (mine) US troops are under Nato, not UN command.)

Originally, U.N. peacekeepers were to go to former Yugoslavia to patrol the truce in Croatia. By summer of 1992, their role had broadened to include ensuring humanitarian aid deliveries to millions of needy, especially in Bosnia. Since then, the Security Council has passed about 70 vague and often conflicting resolutions governing the peacekeepers' mission across former Yugoslavia. The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees has been the principle deliverer of aid on which millions depend in Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia.

I work with severla Bosnian refugees. They described the corruption of the UN seen first hand. They were assisted out by Catholic Charities.

33 posted on 12/04/2002 3:41:30 PM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: nicmarlo
You missed a treat not getting to hear her. I did when she came to Memphis a few years ago. Boy did she sock it to them in a NO nonsense way.
34 posted on 12/04/2002 3:49:51 PM PST by GailA
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To: Dutchgirl
You bring up good points, Dutchgirl. My only point is my belief that abandoning the only world court will do us (and the world) more harm than good. Fight corruption at the UN? Absopositively. But let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. 'Tis my only point.

35 posted on 12/04/2002 3:54:18 PM PST by CapedCrusader
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To: Dutchgirl
I've long considered Phyllis Schlafly to be a clear thinking, rational, fearless conservative...able to debate rings around the "rats".

We need to hear more from her.
36 posted on 12/04/2002 4:18:30 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Dutchgirl
Phyllis has been a voice of reason for many years. She is one of the reasons I became a conservative. Her views deserve more attention from the Republican party.
37 posted on 12/04/2002 4:52:14 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: CapedCrusader
the u.s. does not need the u.n., we do need a vehicle to moderate the actions of the rest of the lunatic world... by taking pre-emptive strikes on supporters of terrorism in the name of preventing WOMD from being deployed, if the u.s. were out of the u.n. those nut jobs would vote to strike us to end our raping and destroying the environment... they would not win... but they would try now that a precedent has been set...
38 posted on 12/04/2002 4:54:51 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: Dutchgirl
the new breed of doctors who provide prompt and efficient medical care for cash while refusing payments by any government or private insurance.

Glad to hear it.

39 posted on 12/04/2002 4:58:31 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: CapedCrusader
Fight corruption at the UN?

The UN is built on corruption. The UN is incompatible with anything other than corruption and could not survive without it. The UN is the guilty conscience of the modern western world that has always been ashamed of its successes to the point of self destruction..

40 posted on 12/04/2002 5:04:38 PM PST by Texasforever
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