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To: Joe Brower
I don't see any BS in the article at all. Just because you don't want to believe something, don't cover your eyes. AAMOF, the last sentence could very well be the conclusion to be drawn from the article.
8 posted on 12/04/2002 11:04:45 AM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
You don't see any BS? I do, and you should look a little closer.

For one thing, 6 states? 6? Do the numbers not support the anti-gun propaganda if the seventh is included?
24 posted on 12/04/2002 11:14:59 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: gcruse
the last sentence could very well be the conclusion to be drawn from the article.

Yes, varations of which are at post #12. A good read that is also germane can be found HERE.

34 posted on 12/04/2002 11:22:38 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: gcruse
all just a bs story from the liberal left wing nuts!
42 posted on 12/04/2002 11:28:00 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: gcruse
I don't see any BS in the article at all.

Well, there is this:

In fact, the six states with the highest rates of gun ownership--Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Wyoming, West Virginia and Arkansas--had more than 21,000 homicides, nearly three times as many as the four states with the lowest rates of gun ownership--Hawaii, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Jersey.

Correct me if I'm wrong but did the author of this article compare raw numbers of homicides in six states to raw numbers of homicides in four other states? That's a pure BS comparison.

Of course, this may be the fault of the author of the news story and not the researchers, who may not have put forth such a comparison in their actual paper. But it certainly is "BS in the article". Comparing the number of homicides in a group of six states to the number of homicides in some other group of four states is a pure nonsense comparison. States have different populations and such. Especially take note of the fact that group 2 includes Rhode Island and Hawaii. I betcha group 1 also has "nearly three times as many" TiVos as group 2....

54 posted on 12/04/2002 11:42:13 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: gcruse
"I don't see any BS in the article at all."

You are not looking too closely at it then.

It is (or should be) known that any anti-gun article, poll etc is looking to fulfill their belief that guns kill people.

Other people here have pointed out the flaws of the article; it does not distingush suicide, self-defense, domestic violence etc from homicide..it combines them, makes uneducated guesses on non-existant information (how many gun owners and guns there are).
67 posted on 12/04/2002 12:05:14 PM PST by Pintobean
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To: gcruse
Take it county by county from the Red/Blue zones of the last election. The blue zone[dem] has a six times higher murder rate than the red Zone[Republican].
91 posted on 12/04/2002 12:54:13 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: gcruse
I don't see any BS in the article at all. Just because you don't want to believe something, don't cover your eyes. AAMOF, the last sentence could very well be the conclusion to be drawn from the article.

Did you miss the title somehow?

164 posted on 12/06/2002 6:59:28 AM PST by Teacher317
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