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To: ServesURight
In those southern states, lets have a breakdown by racial groupings please.
22 posted on 12/04/2002 11:13:39 AM PST by hgro
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To: hgro
In those southern states, lets have a breakdown by racial groupings please.

Already did that. Here, from the Census Bureau website, is the breakdown by state of the two groups - percentage of African-American, and total population in millions:

MA - 5.4 percent, 6.3 million
NJ - 13.6 percent, 8.5 million
RI - 4.5 percent, 1.1 million
HI - 1.8 percent, 1.2 million

AL - 26 percent, 4.4 million
Ark - 15.7 percent, 2.7 million
LA - 32.5 percent, 4.4 million
MI - 36.3 percent, 2.9 million
WV - 3.2 percent, 1.8 million
WY - .8 percent, .5 million

Note that the researchers were careful to lump states together, to make it impossible to look for variations within the high-ownership states and low-ownership states.

35 posted on 12/04/2002 11:22:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: hgro
Now, let's look at murder rates, percentage of African-Americans for the ten states. Murder rate is number of murders per 100,000 people:

MA - 5.4 percent, 2.3
NJ - 13.6 percent, 4
RI - 4.5 percent, 3.7
HI - 1.8 percent, 2.6

AL - 26 percent, 8.5
Ark - 15.7 percent, 5.5
LA - 32.5 percent, 11.2
MI - 36.3 percent, 9.9
WV - 3.2 percent, 2.2
WY - .8 percent, 1.8

So with this simple bit of analysis, the high-gun ownership rate states of West Virginia and Wyoming have LOWER murder rates than the four low-gun ownership states. Hence the need to lump them with the four Southern states - to hide another possible finding of that study, one the PC folks at Harvard would NOT want to discover.

47 posted on 12/04/2002 11:34:45 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: hgro
Poverty rates can be another factor. First number, percent in poverty, second number, murder rate per 100,000:

MA - 9.3 percent, 2.3
NJ - 8.5 percent, 4
RI - 11.9 percent, 3.7
HI - 10.7 percent, 2.6

AL - 16.1 percent, 8.5
Ark - 15.8 percent, 5.5
LA - 19.6 percent, 11.2
MI - 19.9 percent, 9.9
WV - 17.9 percent, 2.2
WY - 11.4 percent, 1.8

So, with the exception of West Virginia, the poverty rate has a fair correlation to the relative murder rate.

In other words, there are many, many factors that better model the murder rate than gun ownership.

56 posted on 12/04/2002 11:45:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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