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To: RLK
"As I understand it there was a warrant in existence, but it probably was not present---"

You are correct -- the court case said the surveillance was for a warrant at a later date -- but the U.S. Marshalls did not have a warrant with them, they were to do surveillance only.

The U.S. Marshalls then had the audacity to ask the court for immunity for making a false report, lying to the grand jury and then lying to the court.[all in the court case].

I guess the false report resulted in the FBI actions.

24 posted on 12/03/2002 1:35:06 PM PST by gatex
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To: gatex
Here is link to June, 2001 case, ---

Idaho v. Horouchi

Acrobat Reader required.

25 posted on 12/03/2002 1:47:47 PM PST by gatex
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To: gatex
Whatever the particulars, the events of Ruby Ridge and Waco did not belong in this country. There was a bunch of rogue government agents way off the reservation in a party atmosphere drunked up on power. There has been no concer from three presidents that that was the fact. There has been no accountability. There is no reason to suspect it won't happen again.
27 posted on 12/03/2002 1:48:46 PM PST by RLK
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