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Astronaut Awe-Struck (praises "Mother Earth"; uses tobacco in pagan pre-flight purification ritual)
AP ^ | 12/01/02 | AP

Posted on 12/01/2002 4:40:24 PM PST by gg188

Astronaut Was Awe-Struck During Spacewalk

The Associated Press

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. Dec. 1 — After completing three spacewalks in five days, astronaut John Herrington got a chance to relax Sunday and reflect on what it was like to hurtle around Earth at 17,500 mph outside his spaceship.

He couldn't help but think: "That's a loooong way down."

Herrington said he was somewhat intimidated by the fact that at any moment, he might find himself in uncontrollable motion and break away from the international space station, which would be "a bad thing."

"So I was always constantly on guard that I was maintaining the best control I could and that I had my proper tether protocol," he said. "But it was very awe-inspiring. It's a beautiful sight to look down and see the Earth from this altitude."

Herrington, the first American Indian in space and a member of the Chickasaw Nation, helped NASA get a stalled space station railcar moving again during his final spacewalk of the mission Saturday. In his two earlier outings, he helped install a $390 million station girder that was delivered by space shuttle Endeavour.

His one-week visit to the space station will end Monday afternoon, when Endeavour undocks and heads back to Earth for a Wednesday touchdown. The shuttle will return three former space station residents who have been in orbit since early June.

In an interview with Indian Country Today, Herrington said the first time he looked out Endeavour's windows after blasting off Nov. 23, he was amazed at how massive the Earth was and how minute the atmosphere. It made him realize "how insignificant we are in the great scheme of things."

"In the spiritual sense, it makes me appreciate how grand the grand scheme is of Mother Earth," he said.

Herrington said he carefully chose a variety of American Indian objects to take into space eagle feathers, wooden flutes, arrowheads, braided sweet grass "that I think represents a lot of the spiritual sense that we all feel."

He wanted to take tobacco, too, because of its purifying value, but NASA said no. The 44-year-old astronaut, a Navy pilot, said he recognized NASA's position on banning tobacco aboard spacecraft, but noted: "A lot of folks don't realize that we do use it in a spiritual sense."

In fact, just before launch, Herrington said he and a good friend "smudged" outside NASA crew quarters, waving smoke from burning leaves onto themselves for purification.

Herrington said flying in space and doing productive work up there probably is the most fulfilling thing he's ever done in his career.


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"Mother earth"???? Gosh almighty, how far have we come (or descended, I should say)

Some thoughts

1. Imagine if a CHRISTIAN had wanted to puff a cigarette before taking off into space...Imagine a Christian speaking of Jesus as this guy speaks of "Mother Earth"...

2. What a shame that pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap gets mixed up with the space program of our great nation...

3. SMOKERS (I am not one): you may now claim a SPIRITUAL use of tobacco that should relieve you of the persecution by the left! When the left gets on you for smoking, point out that you are using tobacco in a SPIRITUAL manner.

I mean, if someone can claim that a wooden flute is "spiritual", why not a softpack of Marlboros?

1 posted on 12/01/2002 4:40:24 PM PST by gg188
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2. What a shame that pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap gets mixed up with the space program of our great nation...

What part of "...make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" do you not agree with?

2 posted on 12/01/2002 4:50:31 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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In fact, just before launch, Herrington said he and a good friend "smudged" outside NASA crew quarters...

"Smudged?"

3 posted on 12/01/2002 4:55:56 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck
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RE: tobacco in Space
Didja miss the part where it says that NASA told him he couldn't take tobacco on the shuttle? Talk about a tempest in a teapot.... Take a few deep breaths and try to calm down. It's just too darned bad that NASA didn't check with you before they sent this other American citizen into space.
4 posted on 12/01/2002 4:56:31 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: VoiceOfBruck
smudged..., waving smoke from burning leaves onto themselves for purification (see story)
5 posted on 12/01/2002 4:58:39 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: gg188
I really think you are getting your undies in a bunch over this one. A "Native American" calling the planet "Mother Earth?" Whats the problem there... He brought along some important trinkets of his culture, talismans so to speak.

Remember Gus Grisom bring along a bunch of trinkets so that they would be "valuable" upon their return?

THe guy smudges with sage prior to lift off to ensure good luck. Hey, why not...rockets are not a sure thing, so why not all the good luck?

6 posted on 12/01/2002 5:01:18 PM PST by abigkahuna
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Is he represented by the same witchdoctor who claimed he had to lift some ancient curse from a reservation when what was making everyone ill there was hantavirus?
7 posted on 12/01/2002 5:05:53 PM PST by onedoug
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Why not just leave the headline unmodified? There was no need to use the word Pagan in the headline... what was the point????
8 posted on 12/01/2002 5:07:12 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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2. What a shame that pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap gets mixed up with the space program of our great nation...

Mayhaps ya might take yurself a gander at that there Great Seal of the United States.

9 posted on 12/01/2002 5:11:02 PM PST by per loin
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Makes me wonder, Was it people like you who forced my great-grandmother into a 'christian' boarding school, so they could destroy that "pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap" belief system her parents would have raised her with...???
10 posted on 12/01/2002 5:13:12 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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...Herrington said the first time he looked out Endeavour's windows after blasting off Nov. 23, he was amazed at how massive the Earth was and how minute the atmosphere.

Who is wrong here, AP or Herrington? Because of their history, my money's on AP.
11 posted on 12/01/2002 5:14:12 PM PST by VMI70
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I was at a wedding in Wilmington in October where a guy from Arizona "smudged." It was a very nice thing, IMO. He asked first......and as a group, we ALL said it smelled like dope.......LOL.
12 posted on 12/01/2002 5:17:25 PM PST by Howlin
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To: gg188
You really don't have a clue.
13 posted on 12/01/2002 5:17:29 PM PST by tet68
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To: gg188
You've got a problem with our religion? Just because it isn't yours? Bigot fool. Grow up before you post anything else that merely shows how ignorant you are. You really are a disgrace to the conservative movement.
14 posted on 12/01/2002 5:17:53 PM PST by 11B3
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To: gg188
Why are you on the warpath?
15 posted on 12/01/2002 5:17:58 PM PST by lonestar
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Sounds like Crazy Horse scalped your great-great grandpa at Little Big Horn and you haven't gotten over it.
16 posted on 12/01/2002 5:33:02 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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" (praises "Mother Earth"; uses tobacco in pagan pre-flight purification ritual)"

How was this "Pagan" in any way-seems more like traditional Native American jazz to me.
17 posted on 12/01/2002 5:35:10 PM PST by Rocksalt
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To: abigkahuna
Remember Gus Grisom bring along a bunch of trinkets so that they would be "valuable" upon their return?

Heck, Buzz Aldrin took a cup and a wafer. The first thing he did after he and Armstrong landed on the surface of the moon was take communion...

18 posted on 12/01/2002 5:42:11 PM PST by Lyford
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To: VoiceOfBruck
Smudging is an act of purification, usually done with white sage. The act concentrates the mind and spiritual energy to the task(s) at hand. In other spiritual paths this is also known as annointing, blessing and dedicating.
19 posted on 12/01/2002 5:44:21 PM PST by mandible
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To: gg188
Something just occurred to me. If blacks can sue for reparations, shouldn't the Indians pay for the ills of tobacco?
20 posted on 12/01/2002 5:45:05 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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