[Mixer]

If you don't like living in a country with a constitution that puts the war power in the legislature why don't you go live in some other?

As well as the constitution puts the power of war into the hands of congress, it also states that all citizens should be allowed to have "assistance of counsel for his/her defense". Does this not mean anything anymore? I could care less about non citizens but the people of the USA should have the guarentee of the costitution.

[Mixer]

costitution=Constitution

[mrsmith]

Well, the two citizen-enemy-combatants ('renegades' as they were called before PC), Hamdi and Padilla, have Habeas Corpus proceedings in court as they are constitutionally guaranteed (though the courts are taking a LONG time about it).

Rights to a jury trial, etc. are constitutionally guaranteed in criminal trials. These guys aren't being tried. They aren't accused of being criminals- just combatants.

Padilla has a lawyer anyway ( and from the circumstances of his capture on US soil that's not a bad idea), I don't think Hamdi has a lawyer- but then he was captured armed in the heat of combat overseas.

[expatpat]

I agree that citizens and non-citizens should have different rights. But how do you handle fifth-columnists who have burrowed into the nation and taken US citizenship?