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To: madg; Polycarp; Antoninus
NARTH is not a professional scientific or medical organization, such as the APA's, AAP, AMA, etc.

Then why did you refer me to a website (religioustolerance.org) that says the opposite? ---
"In North America, reparative therapy is mainly promoted by one small professional mental health organization, NARTH, and by......"

It would seem to me that "professional mental health organization" is a pretty good description of both APA and NARTH. (Hey - It was your pals who applied that phrase to NARTH, so don't blame me!)

Or perhaps you would rather I pay close attention to webpages you recommend only when they support some allegation you are making at the moment, and ignore them when the same pages destroy an allegation you are making at some later moment?

Yes, they certainly publish LOTS of "sciency-sounding" reports,...

The APA also publish lots of "sciency-sounding" reports too. Like that one last year that claimed child-molesting doesn't always harm children but rather may even be beneficial to them. Of course, they did disavow it when the public backlash was far greater than they had expected. (Though I'm sure they defended their furious backpedaling as being based solely on "scientific reasons" and not "political" reasons, right?)

NARTH is NOT mainstream science

I'm sure the majority of the PC Psychiatrists agree with this one, because it's an article of faith with all PC True Believers in any walk of life that "PC Thought = Mainstream American Thought". Therefore anyone or anything that's non-PC is non-mainstream, "extremist," and downright un-American. That's why PC people (like yourself?) are so confused to witness these seemingly endless GOP victories at the national level. "Where did all these EXTREMISTS come from?!!??!"

professional groups that oppose what NARTH stands for : the American Psychological Association,

But they publish their papers anyway! So, I wonder how you define this word "oppose"?

we see that Throckmorton's OWN EMPLOYER acknowledges that his is a MINORITY view

So a Christian college admits that the viewpoint of NARTH members is a minority viewpoint among psychiatrists? I certainly hope you didn't expect me to regard this as earth-shattering news??

Who should define what makes a Boy Scout_ the gay community, or the Boy Scouts?

WHAAAAAT?? I don't believe my eyes! You're implying that the gay community should NOT have the right to decide who makes it into the Boy Scouts? You mean that you do NOT agree with the NJ Soopreme Court and 4 of 9 justices on the USSC? You're saying the Boy Scouts SHOULD have the right of self-determination after all? Whoopee!! Wonderful! I'm glad you've finally come over to our way of thinking! Welcome! (So was everything else you said above, then, just a joke?)

And BTW - since you brought up the Boy Scouts, I'd like to close with a quote from some other Freeper in the past year about the issue of Gay Scout leaders that I really enjoyed (I didn't write it down, so this might not be an exact quote) --

Which part of "We don't want our boys staying overnight in the woods with homosexuals" did you not understand?

Heh heh! Love it!

29 posted on 12/03/2002 10:24:56 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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