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To: janetgreen
This same problem will be coming to other states soon, and will continue until someone has enough sense to close the border to Mexico and start deporting the millions of illegal aliens who are sucking our system dry. Bush doesn't seem to care.

It doesn't seem like Bush cares at all. I'm really troubled by what seems to be appeasement towards Mexico regarding the amnesty issue. I live in an area where, when you cross a certain major street, you can inhale and think you're in Tijuana. During last years soccer match ( you all know the one I'm talking about), people drove around with full size Mexican flags affixed to their car hoods.

I don't want to say that no Mexican national or his/her family will assimilate. A better way of putting it is that illegal immigrants have no need or incentive to embrace our culture. I said this on another thread maybe yesterday, change the law granting automatic citizenship to anyone born in this country. If you are here illegally, your baby is here illegally also.

There is a lot I don't know about how a Mexican national would apply for a permanent visa, to enter legally. Is this process so difficult that they would rather jump the fence? Isn't this a job for "Homeland Security"?

52 posted on 12/01/2002 12:29:03 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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**It doesn't seem like Bush cares at all. I'm really troubled by what seems to be appeasement towards Mexico regarding the amnesty issue. I live in an area where, when you cross a certain major street, you can inhale and think you're in Tijuana. During last years soccer match ( you all know the one I'm talking about), people drove around with full size Mexican flags affixed to their car hoods.**

> Of course Bush does not care, and your right I can't understand, why our Nation, the Richest and Most poweful in the world, is getting down and SUCKING, and dirty 3rd world cesspool ridden country like Mehico. Whats up with our leaders. Many "NOT" all seem very weak in the face of this MEXICAN invasion and to a lesser extent the Central-Am invasion. Personally the "Other" Hispanic/Latin Nationals are Okay. But the Mexicans hate and Despise America, they come here to work for sub-standard wages, leech of the welfare and s/security system and swithc Pueblo (Rural Povery) to Barrio (Urban Poverty). Many people have said Los-Anageles is already lost, for the most part I agree, however I believe the Afflunt American parts of LA should Secede from Greater LA, just like the Valley and Hollwood are going to.

**I don't want to say that no Mexican national or his/her family will assimilate. A better way of putting it is that illegal immigrants have no need or incentive to embrace our culture. I said this on another thread maybe yesterday, change the law granting automatic citizenship to anyone born in this country. If you are here illegally, your baby is here illegally also.**

> Yeah your right Many Mexicans and in particular their US Born Kids Do assimilate, its just that this Massive Illegal population in CA, and the Border States, are hurting the Legal ones, and their kids who try to assimilate and succeed in the Nation. In fact in the US, over 1 in 3 Mexicans-American & Hispanics speak little or No Spanish, and and are well assimilated into Americas mainstream. Per the US-Census 2000 there are 16.5-17.0 Million Spanish Speakers (over-whelmingly Immigrants), its jut that the Latino Activist Lump the other 19 Million Americans with Latin Ancestary with the immigrants, therefore they occasionally quote figures that there are 36 Million Spanish Speaker thats TOTAL Bull-Sh*t. The Assimilate Mexicans are fellow Americans, but its just our damn Liberal Media and the "Latino Activists" who lumps them in with the illegal Mexican Trash (LOL) that comes over the Border, quite frankly you can't compare the two.

> Many Mexicans and Central-Ams will simply never succeed in the USA. They were unable to succeed in their own, countries, they Speak little or No English, have No Education, and are Semi or Illiterate, in their own language as well. I would go with the many people on this thread who stated that they will live in many generations of poverty, and they will because of their own stupidity, arrogance, and ignorance. As one "Latino" AKA MEXICAN Journalist said, many Mexicans SELL-OUT by Getting a Well Paid Job and Inter-Marrying with Non-Mexicans (AKA Mostly Whites, ever watched Mexican TV, you'd think it was in Scandanavia, there are more Blondes/Fair Haired Girls on Mex-TV than US-TV). The journalist was Ruben Naverrete (what a fool), who stated this point in the Dallas Morning Star. Anyway When was getting a GOOD JOB, and Inter-Marrying Selling out ? Selling out What, the Gang Banging, Loud Music Culture ?

There is a lot I don't know about how a Mexican national would apply for a permanent visa, to enter legally. Is this process so difficult that they would rather jump the fence? Isn't this a job for "Homeland Security"?

> The Legal Route has limits, thus rather than waiting another 6 months or 1 year they follow the advice of the ir Corrupt Government, and jump the fence and "Hope for Amnesty" - I personally think Amnesty won't come. They'll be several more 9-11s in the relatively near future the Government knows this.

Thanks !!!
54 posted on 12/01/2002 1:30:54 PM PST by RICK77
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"...change the law granting automatic citizenship to anyone born in this country."

There is no such law. Our problem stems from an extremely liberal interpretation of the 14th Amendment that needs to be challenged before the Supreme Court.

Amendment XIV:

1868

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

DOES NOT MEAN, NOR WAS IT EVER INTENDED TO MEAN THIS:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States.

You can't just ignore 46.43% of the words in a clause of an Amendment to the United States Constitution!

We've been hoodwinked by the liberals long enough.

This is on its way to the Supreme Court in what will be a landmark decision.

Group Files Motion in U.S.-Born Taliban's Case

"Friends of Immigration Law Enforcement filed a lawsuit against Yaser Esam Hamdi - a U.S.-born Saudi National to Saudis here on work visas."

The Supreme Court has no choice, but to overturn this Taliban's citizenship. His parents don't meet the requirements of the 14th Amendment.

Some Mexican woman that runs across the border and right into a U.S. hospital emergency room to have her baby doesn't either.

63 posted on 12/01/2002 2:54:25 PM PST by 4Freedom
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