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I am planning a trip to the U.K. this fall. As soon as I land in London I plan to head North as quickly as possible to escape what you have described. I've always believed that the real England is in the villages and smaller towns. Hope the rot of group think has not reached Norfolk but I fear I may return with the same impression. I lived there from 92-95 and have only been back once about seven years ago. I'm hoping that at least my old pub has not changed and the beer is still good.

Sounds like a plan. We had a wonderful time once we left London. We headed to Bath and then spent a week in the Cottswold (sp?). No shortage of beer, not to mention cheese!

" We headed to Bath and then spent a week in the Cottswold (sp?)"

My first visit to the U.K. was spent in the Cotswold (RAF Fairford) thanks to Desert Storm. The locals were very supportive of us even though we invaded the local pub nightly (The Bull). We plan to go back there for a few days if we make it over in the fall. I like the weather in the fall and tourisits have pretty much cleared out by then.