[SamAdams76]

Pick up practically any Charles Dickens novel (i.e. Oliver Twist) and you will see that grinding poverty and high crime rates are nothing new to England. I think that the lack of guns definitely emboldens criminals wherever stringent gun control laws are in place, but much of urban England has been a cesspool for centuries.

[beaversmom]

I think you are right. I did a little reading on the internet about Jack the Ripper. The area in which he committed his dirty deeds was terribly impoverished--morally and financially.

[Age of Reason]

Pick up practically any Charles Dickens novel (i.e. Oliver Twist) and you will see that grinding poverty and high crime rates are nothing new to England.

Errr, you always base your views on "facts" found in works of fiction?

[ricpic]

Ang em in the public square I sez guvner. Blimey, ang em from the ighest yardahm while yer at it. That'll smarten up the lower orders guvner. Teach em respect it will. Bloody divels.