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Effects of abortion can be long lasting
The Pioneer (Bemidji, Minnesota ) ^
| November 30, 2002
| Mark Peske
Posted on 11/30/2002 7:16:19 PM PST by madprof98
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To: jlogajan
i dont recall the article saying a thing about any one forcing the guilt on the aborters. as a matter of fact... how many people make abortions public business? so why would anyone confront someone they didnt know committed such an act?
To: MacDorcha
in other words... you dont need to be posting here
To: Texas Eagle
in either case, the thread tells of how both men and women felt remorse..... deal with it, a growing mass of tissue and human genes is human. it is growing, it is consuming, it is adapting. it is alive. abortion stops a life. killing someone that hasnt even made its first sin is wrong by all counts. truth be told, you better be damn glad your folks didnt think abortion was a hot idea for you....
To: Texas Eagle
funny, ive been so depressed at times where if giving all of my possesions would have gotten rid of that heart ripping, i would have done it. aparanently you never felt it, how do you know you have a heart if it doesnt hurt?... hell, im pretty sure you are one of the reasons why liberals can depict us as assinine.... AND GET AWAY WITH IT!
To: MacDorcha
that is of course, if i didnt miss some sarcasm
To: MacDorcha
in either case, the thread tells of how both men and women felt remorse..... deal with it, a growing mass of tissue and human genes is human. it is growing, it is consuming, it is adapting. it is alive. abortion stops a life. killing someone that hasnt even made its first sin is wrong by all counts. truth be told, you better be damn glad your folks didnt think abortion was a hot idea for you....Am I mis-reading your post or did you reply to me by mistake? It sounds as if you're attacking me for something I said when I agree with everything in your post.
To: madprof98; TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Yea, I don't think you will ever see something like this in the NY Times.
Freedom of choice = Lifetime of guilt, remorse, sadness and depression and a murdered child.
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posted on
11/30/2002 8:51:47 PM PST
by
Coleus
To: MacDorcha; Texas Eagle
hell, im pretty sure you are one of the reasons why liberals can depict us as assinine.... AND GET AWAY WITH IT! See there Texas Eagle! It's YOUR fault that the proaborts have criticism of the abortion abolitionists.
My GOAL is not to avoid hurting peoples feelings or have the proaborts think I'm a nice person. My goal is the abolition of abortion, stopping the slaughter of 25,000 babies every week.
I'm not praying for peace. I'm praying for the abolition of abortion.
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To: Lester Moore
My GOAL is not to avoid hurting peoples feelings or have the proaborts think I'm a nice person. My goal is the abolition of abortion, stopping the slaughter of 25,000 babies every week.Amen, bro! (sorry if that sounds too religionoid-ish).
To: Lester Moore
I'm not praying for peace. I'm praying for the abolition of abortion.
Why can't you do both? CD
To: madprof98
I once attended a lecture by a doctor from UofM (Michigan) about abortion. She stated that a Finnish study showed that a teenage girl who had an abortion is 7 times more likely to attempt suicide than a teenage girl that never got pregnant. A teenage girl who got pregnant, but had her child, was 1/2 as likely to commit suicide than a teenage girl who never got pregnant.
Pregnancy, and having kids, actually increases survival chances of teen girls. Having an abortion greatly reduces survival chances of teen girls. Who's pro woman, again?
She also stated that the medical establishment is immensely PC. They would not even publish her research on abortion because it put abortion in a negative light. They went through the motions as if they were goign to publish it, in a very prestigious Journal, but then suddenly, rejected her paper.
For some reason, no one seemed interested in looking into and corroborating the Finnish study.
To: Texas Eagle
Whoa, Texas Eagle -- seems to me that what this young man needs is understanding, not anger. He is admitting his guilt, and an angry reply that he is a "puke" and off the hook as regards child support is totally off base.
I abhor abortion but it is a reality and those men and women who come seeking repentance should be welcomed with open arms and forgiven.
Incidentally, the day has already come when more than 50% of women think that abortion is wrong. The trouble is, is that a similarly-sized majority (I think it is 55%) also think abortion should still be legal. So, the sentiments of women is that abortion is still a personal decision between a woman and her doctor.
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posted on
12/01/2002 5:46:24 AM PST
by
tom h
To: madprof98
Thank you for posting this. Two of the people I know personally who have had abortions have serious emotional and depression problems. I have no idea what part abortion plays in their problems, but I can't help suspecting it plays a big role.
At the very least, we need to talk more about this aspect of abortion.
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:22:52 AM PST
by
Lorianne
To: Texas Eagle
see post 25...
To: CindyDawg
Truth is more important than Peace... i guess you can have both, but only when everyone agrees on what Truth is... and then you have the dilema of noone thinking on their own.... would you rather have violence or no thinking?
To: Texas Eagle
Yeah, well you little puke, two years of guilt sure beats 18 years of child support doesn't it? At least your heart was only ripped out in a figurative sense.
The Gospel According to John
Chapter 8
5: Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6: This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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posted on
12/01/2002 12:26:30 PM PST
by
AnnaZ
To: AnnaZ
The Gospel According to John Chapter 8
5: Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6: This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7: So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. I've read my posts over and over again and I don't see where I said that the little puke should be stoned to death. Oh, wait....you think the guys Jesus was talking to were about to pelt the prostitute with VERBAL stones. Well, I'm sure you've used this argument before thinking you scored major points, but let me assure you, those guys were going to stone the prostitute to death not call her names. See the difference?
To: jlogajan
Especially with the religionoids screaming "Murderer!" in your face for the rest of your life.The dude in the article wasn't screaming "murderer" in their faces. He was trying to help them get on with their lives by getting over their pasts.
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posted on
12/01/2002 2:04:40 PM PST
by
maxwell
To: Texas Eagle
I've read my posts over and over again and I don't see where I said that the little puke should be stoned to death. Oh, wait....you think the guys Jesus was talking to were about to pelt the prostitute with VERBAL stones. Well, I'm sure you've used this argument before thinking you scored major points, but let me assure you, those guys were going to stone the prostitute to death not call her names. See the difference?
I wasn't trying to score a point, just make one. I think Jesus was, as he often was, explaining our inability to stand righteously or superiorly on our own.
From the article:
And an 18-year-old young man who'd gotten his girlfriend pregnant when she was 16 described it like this:
"After the abortion, I felt like my heart had been ripped out. I've thought about it every day for the past two years. I've always felt like I could never forgive myself."
Your comment:
Yeah, well you little puke, two years of guilt sure beats 18 years of child support doesn't it? At least your heart was only ripped out in a figurative sense.
I found your statement to be harsh and heartless. Have you never made a mistake? Never operated out of fear or ignorance? Are you blessedly free of regret or guilt? If so, then by all means call him a "little puke".
(Although I find that it helps to forget that, generally speaking, we all are.)
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posted on
12/01/2002 2:14:58 PM PST
by
AnnaZ
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