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To: Miss Marple
Now, I will ask you this question: if we declare an all-out war on Islam, what do you think will happen with our allies in Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, Turkey, and Indonesia.

In case you have not noticed, Islam has declared war on you. It makes what we say about it rather moot. Our "allies" in Kuwait have no Americans allowed signs outside some of their business establishments. Turkey and Jordan are not Moslem States, and Indonesia is the site of the Bali Bombing. While you appease, Islam is on the move.

They came for the Sudanese, but we said nothing because they were black? They came for the Israeli’s and we said nothing because they were Jews, they came for the Balinese and we said nothing because they were, uh, Balinese. They came for us and we said nothing because we were to politically correct? But hey, at least the Sand-Nazi’s religious rights to murder were protected from hate speech!

I think a bit of eye opening is over due on both your and Bush's part.

Your question was "will they give us intelligence?" My answer in return is a question, "will it be worth anything IF they give it to us"? As I think they are allies at gunpoint at best, not friends.

Your second question is equally as backasswards in my opinion. "if we declare war on all Islam, what is your proposed solution for the millions of legal Islamic residents and citizens here in the United States? How many police do you think it will take to protect Islamic communities from vigilantes?"

About one thousandths of the amount of police that it will take to protect Americans from the Islamic Jihad Army that is within our borders. I am not worried about a drunk redneck with a deer rifle, I am worried about a quarter million religious fanatics with C4 blowing up shopping malls and city busses as they are prone to in Israel. If you are indeed a "Miss" Marple, you have more to worry about than I do as you are a woman, a much more likely target than a man.

So given that the Koran and the supplementary teachings of the Imams say that a man who attacks his neighboring village and brings the wrath of the infidel on a Moslem village is a shame, where a man who attacks a neighboring village and brings tribute from a stronger village is a wise man, I submit to you that Nuking Mecca may indeed be the only answer.

I not only advocate nuking Mecca, but skywriting in the clouds over Saudi Arabia "Our God is bigger than your God" with the F16's when we leave. You may think that as childish, but I have lived with our "sand cousins" for about three years now. If you want to speak to your enemy, speak his language. Trust me, I am deadly serious.

74 posted on 11/30/2002 5:47:08 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
"In case you have not noticed, Islam has declared war on you."

They have?

You are right, I must have missed that.

You must have miseed this:

By Mohammad Gamal Arafa, IOL Cairo Correspondent

CAIRO, June 20 (IslamOnline) - Leaders of the Egyptian Islamic Jama’a, jailed in the heavily guarded Tora prison, denounced the September 11 attacks as a sin, and said they had been mistaken in their 90s’ clash with the government, confirming they owed the Egyptian people an apology.

“We will not only present an apology, but have also seriously considered granting recompense to the families of the victims of previous wars, from the sale revenues of our book ‘Reviews of The Thoughts of Previous Jama’as,” Karam Zuhdi, the current leader of the Jama’a, told Makram Mohammad Ahmed, editor-in-chief of state-run weekly Al-Musawar, in an interview to be published Friday, June 21.

The apology was endorsed by Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, spiritual leader of Egyptian Islamic Jama’a, who is now in the U.S.

Zuhdi revealed that he made a number of tours to different Egyptian prisons to explain “Reviews” and what a mistake - from the viewpoint of Islamic Shari’a - it was to clash with the government.

The government in Egypt has released thousands of Jama’a prisoners, who are all committed to the 1997 non-violence initiative.

The Islamic Jama’a leaders denied they had any links with Osama bin Laden, emphasizing he was only linked to the Egyptian Jihad movement with which they differ in the ideology of renouncing violence.

Zuhdi said the September 11 attacks are illegal and a sin from the Islamic viewpoint, if it were indeed Muslims who carried out the attacks.

Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman endorsed the Jama’a’s apology

“Killing tradesmen is haram [illegal], and the World Trade Center was full of tradesmen,” he said. “It is also haram to kill innocent women, children, and elderly people. There were more than 600 Muslims in the WTC, and they were killed with the others.”

“Those were all innocent lives who died there, and Bin Laden will answer for their murder before God - if indeed he is to blame for the attacks,” Zuhdi added.

86 posted on 11/30/2002 6:21:04 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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