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To: breakem
You keep saying "right." Sexual Perversion is not a right!!!

Libertarians such as yourself are an extreme danger to our society.

You try to paint anyone who supports morality and values as a Jackbooted thug who supports Big Government.

Rights come from one source. Almighty God. Sodomy is not a right. Like it or not, it is a case of settled law, both earthly and Heavenly.

63 posted on 11/30/2002 2:01:38 PM PST by FF578
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To: FF578
I am not a libertarian, although I much prefer their sales pitch to the totalitarian society you espouse. The government can tell me and my wife how to to have sex and you call our activities a perversion. Perhaps if you engaged in some of the joys a a healthy sex life with a spouse you would see things more clearly and realize what you want others to surrender to government control.
66 posted on 11/30/2002 2:05:23 PM PST by breakem
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To: FF578
Rights is a political-philosophical concept adopted by our constitution (in mankind's greatest experiment in controlling the effect of the evil nature or potency of government power). The concept allows that all people have these rights by virtue of being born people. Some may have originally agreed with this precept for religious reasons, some might have for pragmatic purposes (having seen the uncontrolled nature of power). The point is they agreed and adopted a constitution to fit this belief and it is the belief itself which is the foundation for law and order.
You are free to believe that rights are derived solely from God, but our government is constrained to believe that the rights apply to all living human beings, as that is the law of the land. With respect to marriage - it may be more than a legal contrivance to religions and individuals - it is to me - but to the government it is a legal-admistrative merger that is used to deal with property / children distribution in the event of voluntary or involuntary dissolution. Why wouldn't government want to simplify / standarize cases of gay couples where one party dies?
I don't agree that gay marriages should allow for child adoption, however.
79 posted on 11/30/2002 4:42:40 PM PST by kcar
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