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To: End The Hypocrisy
"In simple words rarely heard in the United States Senate, Wigfall of Texas had said: "I am a plain, blunt-spoken man. We say that man has a right to property in man. We say that slaves are our property. We say that it is the duty of every government to protect its property everywhere. If you wish to settle this matter, declare that slaves are property, and like all other property entitled to be protected in every quarter of the globe, on land and sea, Say that to us, and then the difficulty is settled."

Jefferson Davis was saying, "Slave property is the only private property in the United States specifically recognized in the Constitution and protected by it."

...Edwin A. Pollard of Virginia had just published "Black Diamonds," calling for the African slave trade to be made lawful again; then negroes fresh from the jungles could be sold in southern seaports at $ioo.oo to $150.00 at-head. "The poor man might then hope to own a negro; the prices of labor would then be in his reach; he would be a small farmer revolutionizing the character of agriculture in the South; he would at once step up to a respectable station in the social system of the South; and with this he would acquire a practical and dear interest in the general institution of slavery that would constitute its best protection both at home and abroad. He would no longer be a miserable, nondescript cumberer of the soil, scratching the land here and there for a subsistence, living from band to mouth) or trespassing along the borders of the possessions of the large proprietors. He would be a proprietor himself. He would no longer be the scorn and sport of 'gentlemen of color' who parade their superiority, rub their well-stuffed black skins, and thank God they are not as he. Of all things I cannot bear to see negro slaves, affect superiority over the poor, needy, unsophisticated whites, who form a terribly large proportion of the population of the South."

Pollard could vision steps and advances "toward the rearing of that great Southern Empire) whose seat is eventually to be in Central America, and whose boundaries are to enclose the Gulf of Mexico." Ahead were "magnificent fields of romance" for the South, as he saw its future. "It is an empire founded on military ideas; representing the noble peculiarities of southern civilization; including within its limits the isthmuses of America and the regenerated West Indies; having control of the two dominant staples of the world's commerce—cotton and sugar; possessing the highways of the world's commerce; surpassing all empires of the world's ages in the strength of its geographical position."

Philadelphia newspapers quoted a speech by Senator Herschel V. Johnson of Georgia in their city. "We believe that capital should own labor; is there any doubt that there must be a laboring class everywhere? In all countries and under every form of social organization there must be a laboring class -- a class of men who get their living from the sweat of their brow; and then there must be another class that controls and directs the capital of the country. He pleaded: "Slave property stands upon the same footing as all other descriptions of property."

--"Abraham Lincoln, Vol. II, Prairie Years, by Carl Sandburg pp.217-221

Of course, everybody didn't think that.

"The principles of Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society. And yet they are denied, and evaded, with no small show of success. One dashingly calls them "glittering generalities"; another bluntly calls them "self evident lies"; and still others insidiously argue that they only apply to "superior races."

These expressions, differing in form, are identical in object and effect. -- the supplanting the principles of free government, and restoring those of classification, caste, and legitimacy. They would delight a convocation of crowned heads, plotting against the people. They are the van-guard -- the miners and sappers -- of returning despotism. We must repulse them, or they will subjugate us. This is a world of compensations; and he that would -be- no slave, must consent to --have-- no slave. Those that deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves, and under a just God cannot long retain it. All honor to Jefferson -- to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast and capacity to introduce into a merely revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicible to to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that to-day, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling block to the very harbingers of re-appearing tyrany and oppression."

Abraham Lincoln, March 1, 1859

Abraham Lincoln in 1860.

209 posted on 11/30/2002 4:01:02 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Arguably the Industrial Revolution would have made the institution of slavery hardly worth the expense and predictable risks which are reminiscent of L.A. rioting or Washington D.C. burning. Ironically though, the slavery issue was used to convert the Old South into a source of cheap labor and bureaucrat-enriching tax revenues. To keep Southerners subservient despite such injustices, the Northern-based teachers' unions opportunistically kept tuition vouchers from being able to appear lawfully. As I said before, though...just as some said the Baltic Republics had lost their independence to the Soviet Union, the South shall rise again (one way or another). Let's not forget the USA's record high $6.3 trillion dollar national debt...
224 posted on 11/30/2002 7:16:58 AM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Please help clarify a few things so that we, the rednecks of this state, might better understand your position(s):

Is it true that you hold the Confederate flag in contempt, that it and it's supporters are only worthy of derision, and because of their support for the Confederate flag, that they and the flag itself are deserving of contempt and worthy of abuse?

It it true that you hold that the right of lawful, legal, unilateral secession does not exist, that the political bonds cannot be severed, and especially that the right to self-government cannot be extended to a group that condones slavery and practices the same? That a government predicated on such a foundation is not only immoral but also unlawful, and their prior allegiance cannot be rescinded, regardless of any alleged breaches of their compact?

256 posted on 11/30/2002 10:10:45 PM PST by 4CJ
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