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ACLU Sues Over PATRIOT Act
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, November 26, 2002 | AP

Posted on 11/26/2002 2:29:50 PM PST by Sparta

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To: watcher1
The problem was that you claimed the HSA provided for this. It does not. - dirtboy

"It could have been the patriot act. The bottom line is that the government can surreptitiously enter a home or business." - watcher1

Or not. You can't show the "offending" language, and you probably haven't even read it, yet you feel free to make wild-eyed claims about the very laws that you haven't even read.

Telling...

81 posted on 11/27/2002 1:02:47 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Why don't you just admit that you made it all up?

Made what up?
The government can enter your home or business ( without your knowledge) and does not have to tell you until afterward. That is part of one of these new anti-terror laws.
I hope you're not saying that's not true?
It is true

Big Brother is watching you

82 posted on 11/27/2002 5:20:56 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
"Made what up? The government can enter your home or business ( without your knowledge) and does not have to tell you until afterward. That is part of one of these new anti-terror laws. I hope you're not saying that's not true? It is true"

That's quite a bit different from your earlier claims of legalized burglary. You seem to be backing off of your original wild-eyed claim. That's good. It's not like you were ever going to post a source to support your earlier rants, since no such source exists.

What you've posted now makes it sound as though the government still has to (gasp) get a search warrant from a judge first, and then show it to you after a search.

Who knows, that might even be accurate.

It's certainly Constitutional.

83 posted on 11/27/2002 5:34:47 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
That's quite a bit different from your earlier claims of legalized burglary

No, it's legalized burglary. It's not constitutional.
Unlike a conventional search warrant, the gov does not have to tell you they were there.
You may or may not ever know about the search.

How long are we going to beat this dead horse?


Big Brother is watching

84 posted on 11/27/2002 6:05:43 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
"Unlike a conventional search warrant, the gov does not have to tell you they were there."

How would you know? You haven't even read the bill, and you certainly don't have the talent to post it here (especially since that sort of language doesn't exist in it).

You're just making it up and spreading urban legends. Oooh, big brother is watching you (cue scary music in the background).

I've seen tabloids with more credibility than you.

85 posted on 11/27/2002 7:07:01 PM PST by Southack
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To: watcher1
"No, it's legalized burglary. It's not constitutional."

The HSA still requires the government to go before a judge and get a search warrant. That's Constitutional.

You are welcome to try to point out specificly WHY forcing the government to get search warrants is unconstitutional, but just as you failed to find the language in the HSA to support your earlier wild-eyed claims, so too will you fail in whatever feeble efforts you do manage to attempt to put together towards this new end.

(Cue scary music) Big brother is watching you, ooooooooooh, run, flee, be frightened! < /MOCKING >

86 posted on 11/27/2002 7:10:56 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
You're just making it up and spreading urban legends.

Nonsense, and you know it.
You're a real funny boy

Big Brother is watching you

87 posted on 11/27/2002 7:17:49 PM PST by watcher1
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To: Southack
wild-eyed claims

Just keep insulting me. That'll make your point

The truth is that these laws are the foundation of a future Police State

Big Brother is searching you

88 posted on 11/27/2002 7:21:00 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
"The truth is that these laws are the foundation of a future Police State..."

No, the truth is that you haven't read the laws in question.

Moreover, you can't find the paragraphs in those laws that would support your wild-eyed claims (probably because such language isn't in them to begin with).

You're basing your entire opinion on fabrications of what is allegedly inside those bills.

And that's why you don't post the language that is in them.

(cue scary music) Oooooooooooh, Big Brother is watching you. Be scared everyone, be real scared! < /MOCKING >

89 posted on 11/27/2002 7:26:06 PM PST by Southack
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To: watcher1
See Post #86.
90 posted on 11/27/2002 7:27:18 PM PST by Southack
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To: mckenzie
"everything you do is recorded by your SS"

Nonsense. Learn to pay for things in cash next time kid.

92 posted on 11/27/2002 7:32:56 PM PST by Southack
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To: JoeFromSidney
Let's start calling it the USA Police State Act.

Yep. Let's start calling it that


93 posted on 11/27/2002 7:44:52 PM PST by watcher1
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To: mckenzie
Wake up

Yes!

Big Brother is Watching you

94 posted on 11/27/2002 7:48:23 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
"Yep. Let's start calling it that."

Orwell would approve. After all, the HSA has nothing to do with creating a police state, so calling it the Police State Act would fit right in with people who don't even read the bill.

Sort of along the lines of Goebels calling his propaganda organ the Ministry of Truth.

No wonder you approve...

95 posted on 11/27/2002 7:50:42 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Sort of along the lines of Goebels calling his propaganda organ the Ministry of Truth.

Hummm...... you'd fit right in!

96 posted on 11/27/2002 7:53:08 PM PST by watcher1
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To: Southack
PS


97 posted on 11/27/2002 7:53:50 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
I see that you still haven't managed to post the language of the HSA that would support your earlier wild-eyed claims.

It must be tough getting called to the carpet.

Next time, read the bill before you go making up more urban legends.

98 posted on 11/27/2002 7:54:50 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Next time, read the bill before you go making up more urban legends.

Just keep telling yourself that

Big Brother is Really watching you.

99 posted on 11/27/2002 8:08:46 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
bump
100 posted on 11/27/2002 8:10:04 PM PST by watcher1
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