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Self | 11/26/02 | Neil E. Wright

Posted on 11/26/2002 12:38:40 PM PST by Neil E. Wright

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Just to tag this post by McCrae, located here, before it is removed. Notice the 2 1/2 hour delay from the other post:

http://nc.indymedia.org/news/2002/11/1526.php


Proud and Insolent Youth Incorporated
by Andrew McCrae • Monday November 25, 2002 at 10:04 PM


The man who killed a Police Officer in Red Bluff, CA claims immunity because he was incorporated.

Hello Everyone, my name’s Andy. I killed a Police Officer in Red Bluff, California in a motion to bring attention to, and halt, the police-state tactics that have come to be used throughout our country.
Now I’m coming forward, to explain that this killing was also an action against corporate irresponsibility.

All of the major problems in America and throughout the world today are caused by corporate irresponsibility.
The very concept behind corporations is to protect their owners from taking responsibility for their actions. This means that directors within corporations can dump waste chemicals in our drinking water, or keep our work environments in fatally dangerous conditions without any personal liability. Corporations murder thousands of people each year this way and are never held accountable.
As a statement against this practice, prior to my action in Red Bluff, I formed a corporation under the name “Proud and Insolent Youth Incorporated,” so that I could use the destructive immunity of corporations and turn it on something that actually should be destroyed.

The name ‘Proud and Insolent Youth’ is a reference to Peter Pan.
Just before their final dual and Captain Hook’s demise, Hook said to Peter, “Proud and insolent youth, prepare to meet thy doom.”
To which Peter replied, “Dark and sinister man, have at thee!”
Now, Peter Pan hates pirates, and I hate pirates, and corporations are nothing but a bunch of pirates. It’s time to send them to a watery grave, and rip them completely out of our lives.

The top 4%, the richest people in America, have more money than the lower 50% of the country combined. And it’s not because they scrimp and save or because they are somehow more deserving. It’s because they cheat and steal and twist the rules to their advantage.
They shatter smaller companies, downsize their own companies, and ship their own factories overseas or across the border to make fortunes in immoral money games. The people who lose out in this are the workers, the people who actually make things of value.
The question corporate capitalists have asked themselves is ‘why empower workers in America to demand better wages, better working conditions, and equal social rights, when you can ship those jobs off to a Colombian or Sri Lankan who can be forced to work under slave-like conditions?’
Don’t think the government is going to help us. Our government leaders are getting paid by them.
Selling out to the rich is inherent to political survival.
In order to afford dazzling election campaigns and make it into their positions of power in the first place, politicians will sell out to whoever can offer them the most money.
Likewise, the corporate lobbies that constantly press themselves upon our lawmakers have both billions of dollars at their disposal and great influence upon which laws are blocked or passed.
These things combined together means that someone who dedicates their lives to making other lives better will never be able to have the same political influence as someone who destroys lives and the environment in the pursuit of money.
Any laws established in the past that protect the American people, the environment, or smaller companies over corporate profits, our lawmakers will sweep away through Deregulation.
Corporate executives and well-preened conservative politicians talk about Deregulation in terms of ‘getting the government off our backs.’ This is because the role of the government is to protect its citizens, and ensuring that workers are protected costs these rich people money. But Deregulation simply gives corporations free reign over their markets, enabling them to overwhelm and envelope smaller companies, destroying our rights and natural resources along the way.
The government is also willing to look the other way while these same people claim outrageous tax breaks. Corporate executives buy gold-plated plumbing fixtures, stay in $3,000 a night hotel suites, take $2,000 wine-tasting classes, or buy $20,000 worth of rugs, and then have their corporations write these expenses off on their taxes. This means that those of us who actually do pay our taxes end up footing the bill for these luxury items!
Laws are even invented specifically for corporations which enable them to avoid paying taxes in ways that the average person is denied.
Through the IRS’s Net Operating Loss deduction, corporations can demand back tax money they’ve paid if they lose money in their business. When you are just barely able to afford rent, and groceries, are you allowed to ask for your taxes back? No.
Yet many multibillion-dollar corporations finagle their way out of paying any taxes at all. And still, some politicians are willing to badmouth ‘Welfare’ as the big inefficiency of our tax system. But less than $23 billion dollars is spent on Welfare annually, whereas over $100 billion is given away to big business each year to help them do things they should pay for themselves, such as buying new equipment or advertising their products. This ‘Corporate Welfare’ is even claimed by some experts to soak up $800 billion dollars of our national budget. This is even outside of the tax money corporations save, and the other hundreds of billions of dollars given away to corporations for other reasons.

Corporations will not voluntarily give up their dominating power of political immunity and the financial wealth it gains them. And with all our government leaders either personally connected to corporations or sold out to them, if we try to remove this corporate influence by ourselves, we will find ‘the Law,’ with all its weight, upon us.
Our politicians have no serious proposals for the problems of health care, unemployment, crime, disappearing pensions, or any of the pressing social issues that actually afflict us, yet they vote themselves raises every year. They vote themselves solid health care plans. They vote themselves hefty pensions. What about our health care? What about our pensions? Why don’t they watch after us the same way they watch after themselves?
It’s because if we had the opportunity to provide ourselves all of these things, the politicians and CEO’s wouldn’t be able to take the money for themselves. Having to spend all of our time to meet our middle and lower class needs means that we will not have time to fight against the forces that are actually pressing us into this situation. And the inevitable competition that results from this lifestyle splits us up, so that we cannot unite in an effort to destroy it.

The only uniting we are allowed is against the common enemies we are doctored to believe in, the foreign ‘terrorists’ who come to attack us. But these ‘terrorists’ do not violently attack the United States because they hate freedom, or because they think blowing themselves up is cool. They use violence against the U.S. because U.S. corporations and the U.S. government are murdering their families and destroying their countries.
As demoralizing as corporations make our lives, and as bland as they make our culture here in the U.S, corporations practice their immunity in far more brutal and murderous ways in foreign countries.
We are lead to believe that Third World countries are under-developed because the people living there just somehow don’t have the intelligence to drag themselves out of poverty.
The truth is that the people of these Third World countries know exactly how to get themselves out of their economic ruts, but are forcefully kept from doing it because of a dominating U.S. influence. These people want to develop their own industrial and technological industries by putting tariffs on U.S. products. But they can’t do this because the World Trade Organization (WTO) which is both dominated by U.S. corporations, and has the authority to regulate third world use of tariffs, prevents them from doing so.
Tariffs on U.S. products sold within Third World countries would raise their prices and ease consumption of them. This would give third world industries space in the market to strengthen themselves. Using tariffs in this manner is a fundamental tool for any country to develop into a more powerful nation, but the WTO is perpetually keeping them from doing it, just so U.S. companies can sell their own products there.
This is the exact same situation the American colonists were protesting when they threw the Boston Tea Party.
Furthermore, while these countries economies are weak, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) takes advantage of this weakness and forces them to restructure their national production in ways that are simply murderous- preventing farmers from producing crops to sustain themselves and their communities, and instead churn out more of whatever luxury products the U.S. and other developed countries want.
The IMF places such a high interest rate on its loans and restructures its debtor nations in such ridiculous ways, that these nations become locked perpetually in a poor, subservient role, unable to pay even the interest on their debts.
Then, when Third World peasants hold their own ‘Tea Parties’ and revolt against this foreign domination over their lives, corporate lobbyists cry foul and the U.S. military is called in to protect ‘U.S. interests.’ Soon following, a corrupt, U.S.-friendly government is installed, or reinforced: one that will accept blood money to do what the U.S. tells it to, and do whatever it takes to keep its own people from interfering with the U.S. role of economic supremacy.
George Kennan, the most powerful voice in U.S. foreign policy following World War II, clearly gave away these brutal motives for U.S. dominance when he said-

“[America has] about 50 percent of the world’s wealth, but only 6.3 percent of its population. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which permit us to maintain this position of disparity… To do so, we have to dispense with all sentimentality… We should cease to talk about vague and unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of living standards and democratization… The less we are hampered by idealistic slogans the better.”

American government’s collaboration with big corporations has turned America from a Republic into an Empire. In the same spirit that Rome was an Empire, raping foreign lands for labor and resources- in the same spirit that Britain was an Empire, which caused us to turn from Her in hatred.

Just as Rome and Britain did, America has military bases all over the world. How many foreign bases are established in the U.S.? How many would the American people allow?
We’re told a series of lies to make us willing to believe that having our military spread across the globe is reasonable.
The conscience of the American public is satiated with racist rhetoric, proclaiming us the ‘true defenders of freedom,’ and ‘the world’s one and only hope.’
We are told that we are the policemen of the world. We are told that our unique national position gives us the responsibility to check and balance other countries. We are told that the western citizen values life more than the overpopulated third world savages.
We are raised on something that sounds a little like this-
“We are more valuable than the others, who outnumber us and will always outnumber us. We are more valuable, because our blood has fitted us to be more inventive than the others, to be better leaders of our people than the others, because it has fitted us to be better soldiers, better statesmen, to attain a higher culture, to be better characters.”
That was Heinrich Himmler who said that, Hitler’s associate, speaking of why it was necessary for Germany to dominate the world.
Americans are no more naturally gifted with human capabilities than any other people in the world, and our lives are no more valuable than any other people in the world, either.
But these lies work because we want to believe them. It feels good to believe them.
Our leaders fervent our desire for war abroad and a police state at home by telling us that these people fighting for their freedom are ‘terrorists.’ Then they promise to protect us by destroying them through a process that will simply require us to give up a little freedom, and send our soldiers far over seas.
Hermann Goering, Hitler’s master of propaganda, explained the process like this-

“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in Germany... But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy… or a communist dictatorship… the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Does that formula sound familiar?
Successful campaigns of conquest must have a cover story to gain the support of the people who will be forced to fight in it. They are given a common enemy and distracted from their problems at home. The Nazis focused on the injustices of the Versailles treaty to motivate the German people into conquering Europe. We used to focus on ‘communism’ to steal all throughout Central and South America, and other parts of the rest of the world. Nowadays we focus on ‘terrorism’ to go into Afghanistan and Iraq. Notice how the reaction from the average American to the dual knowledge that we didn’t know where Osama Bin Laden was, but were still going to attack Afghanistan anyways, was, “Well, we gotta do something.” Yes! But let’s review our options first!
George Bush isn’t sending our soldiers all over the world to protect American or any other innocent lives. This becomes obvious when we realize that the U.S. military has killed more innocent civilians in Afghanistan than were killed in the World Trade Center, and that the family members of these innocent civilians are more devoted to anti-American ‘terrorism’ than ever before.
The only way to stop ‘terrorism’ is to stop raping and destroying the places ‘terrorists’ are from.

The real reason for sending our soldiers-
1- There is an OIL pipeline soon going into Afghanistan that has been long planned, but that the Taliban would not allow U.S. companies to build.
2- Iraq is sitting on top of one of the richest OIL fields in the world.
The truth is that George Bush is risking our soldiers and killing foreign innocents so that he can STEAL OIL.


The U.S. military is being used to steal this Oil. But our military does not exist to murder people so that the American rich can steal these dead people’s resources. It exists to protect our country and our lives. The government and corporations have bastardized our military away from us, endangering us and our soldiers for their own monetary gain.
They’ve been doing it for a long time.
But many veterans, after leaving the service, step back and look at U.S. foreign policy to see it for what it is.
As a response to President Reagan’s imperialistic attacks throughout Central America in the 1980’s, Charles J. Liteky, veteran and holder of the Congressional Medal of Honor, publicly renounced and returned his Medal. The Congressional Medal of Honor is the most coveted, highest possible honor a U.S. service-person can receive, and Liteky basically said, ‘If this is what our military is about, then I don’t want it.’
But even further back than that-
Major General Smedley Butler, a U.S. Marine, looked back on his 33-year career, which took him to combat in over 5 different countries, and determined that, “War is a racket… conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the very many.”
Smedley Butler attained the highest rank possible at the time and was awarded two Congressional Medals of Honor throughout his career. Once he retired, though, he realized and publicly stated that he had given all those years and sweat and blood, simply to make foreign lands safe for Wall Street. Butler proclaimed, “To Hell with War!” and went on to state that to get rid of War we must take the profit out of War.

I, myself, am an Army veteran, not so well-decorated as the Gentlemen I mention. Nevertheless, I am a graduate of the U.S. Army Ranger School, Airborne School, and Jungle Operations Training School.

The American government is violent all over the world to protect its ill-gotten money and goods.
But the American People don’t have the right to profit off foreign deaths and silently enjoy our position, then scream bloody murder when those foreigners react to our violence with violence.
If we refuse to recognize what our government is doing and why, if we refuse to realize that American lives are no more, and no less, valuable than other nation’s, then we deserve the ‘terrorism’ that we are forcing these people to commit.


So our government is sold out to corporations, and corporations are destroying the world.
Let’s do something about it!
Which is why I incorporated in the State of New Hampshire. The New Hampshire State Constitution, in the Bill of Rights, guarantees the Right to Revolution. I quote-

“Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the whole community and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered and all other means of redress are ineffectual the people may and of right ought to reform the old or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.”

I’m going to utilize the WTO’s tactic of applying to a foreign state the laws of the state in which I was incorporated.
I encourage everyone else to do the same.
I’m opening the board of directors of Proud and Insolent Youth Inc. to anyone who wants to be a part. It’s your corporation. There are an infinite amount of stocks and they’re all free. Anyone can have one; you don’t even need a certificate.
Proud and Insolent Youth Inc. is the corporation to destroy all other corporations. Our mission statement- Whoever abuses their corporate immunity to harm life and liberty, we will destroy through the use of our own corporate immunity.

It’s foolish to whine to politicians while allowing them and the police to bluff and bully you.
Let their oppression fuel your fire. Allow your passions to fertilize the seeds of constructive revolution. Allow your love of freedom to overcome the false values they place on human life. It’s too easy to forget the controlling things that corporations and the government do and lapse into apathy. Stop forgetting right now.

Recognize that the ‘Justice System’ always either kills justice or leaves it sitting too long, stealing away our lives while we wait. We have other things to do with our lives! We came into this world, not only to make it a good place to live, but also to live in it.
There are many different ways to effectively resist, both violent and nonviolent. Both are necessary. Don’t do anything you’re uncomfortable with, and don’t pressure anyone else into anything they’re uncomfortable with.

You have the power to nonviolently shut everything down! You can simply stop. No buses, no factories. A Nationwide Strike until corporations come out from behind their shields and the government meets your demands.
You must all join together and work together for this! Young and Old! Gay and Straight! Men and Women! Races of every description!
It is time to put ourselves out there on the line and risk to reach out for the Paradise we all desire. We can make this world better!
Young people of America!- I am here to tell you- you will not grow up and suddenly realize that you were wrong and that all the older people, who are sold out to the system, were right. Teenagers!- that impulse for freedom that you feel within yourselves, which everyone else seems to be trying to silence- it is not simply a product of your age, as so many would have you believe, it is Life, tugging at you, asking you to actually be Alive! The systems of control that surround you, which you hate, do not get better as you age. The control gets more invasive, more complete. Smash it while your youth still helps you to see it!

Everyone!- Remember that the authorities will lie to you. They will try to make you distrust one another. Trust each other in spite of the disinformation they feed you. Don’t believe any rumors you hear until they are confirmed. Different views and different tactics are okay, but communicate with one another! Especially when you are two autonomous groups collaborating. Communicate and don’t believe rumors.
Communicate with the liberal press, and with indymedia.
This system of oppression is not a solid unstoppable force. They just have really good reflexes and are good at the game. It feels unstoppable because you don’t know how they operate. Learn. Study them. Follow them. Photograph them. Don’t just call them apparitions and give up trying to understand them.
Spy on the spies.
Convert them. Convert the soldiers, the cops.
They are all intelligent, capable people.
Most of them aren’t aware of these injustices, or fight to convince themselves that they’re not there, so that they can still do their jobs. Help them see. Help them come to your side. They’ll make powerful allies.
All police and all soldiers and all spooks are frustrated with their jobs. Their leaders weigh them down with paperwork, and never deploy them to the hilt of their capabilities. They are all dissatisfied with the ways their out-of-touch leaders command them about. These foot soldiers simply want to be strong, and have accepted the official politics handed to them. Give them better politics and better strength. Offer them a better world and they will come over.


Manifest the World you want to live in!
Do this for yourselves.
If this be treason, make the most of it.


And finally, I must address Mister Bush, the one in the Oval Office-

Mister Bush,

The Presidential election process in our country has been taken away from the American people. Through the combined existence of the electoral college and the campaign funding process, it is guaranteed that any candidate actually willing to care for the good of the people will never get elected. Beyond this, even within the confines of this system, you were never actually elected with a popular vote from the American people.
Please set in place a democratic, beneficial election system and step down from the Presidency. Al Gore, who was popularly elected through this flawed system, shall serve as the temporary President until a True Representative of the People is determined.





God Bless Us, Every One,

Andy



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TROOPER
by MSP • Wednesday November 27, 2002 at 11:37 AM



AFTER THEY STRAP YOU IN THE CHAIR AND THROW THE SWITCH WE'LL PISS ON YOUR GRAVE


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141 posted on 11/27/2002 2:12:27 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: HighWheeler; FL_engineer; archy; Neil E. Wright
Good move HighWheeler.

A hint to the rest of you. If you want to save the posts and stuff on other sites, you might want to store it on your hard disk, on another server or do what HighWheeler did here.

This summer when a large part of Oregon was burning up due to the tactics of some of the enviral whacko orginizations in Oregon and some old USFS positions. A lot of stuff just disappeared when they found out that we were citing their sites and specific positions and tactics re no roads, no logging and no brush removal in the forest areas.
142 posted on 11/27/2002 3:10:08 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; Cindy; Neil E. Wright; archy
FYI, an article from the Concord, NH paper (among others)

Writings describe motive

143 posted on 11/27/2002 3:26:11 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Thanks. This link will probably not disappear as this investigation rolls on.
144 posted on 11/27/2002 3:29:46 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; HighWheeler; Shermy; Neil E. Wright
Thanks. This link will probably not disappear as this investigation rolls on.

See also the links in post #124 above, including the link to the SF Indymedia site, still working at this time. But I bet they're experiencing some bigtime server overload.

-archy-/-

145 posted on 11/27/2002 3:43:52 PM PST by archy
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To: Issaquahking
Ping for read later on.
147 posted on 11/27/2002 8:09:18 PM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Neil E. Wright
To all on this thread:

I've removed most of the flame wars per Neil's request. If you want to flame each other, do not do it here. Take your flaming to one of the threads in the backroom. Also, do not post off topic replies to this thread.

If I did not remove enough, please submit an abuse report including the reply numbers in question and they will be deleted. If I deleted too much... oh well.

Thanks,

Jim
148 posted on 11/27/2002 8:26:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Thanks Jim.

for All: The media is reading the threads posted on the Red Bluff cop killing. I have received calls today from 3 media outlets on this subject. If you wanna flame me for deleting your post, do so via FRmail. But more media will be visiting this thread and checking out the research going on by people like FL_engineer and archy .... so let's let the information get out ...not the BS flames. Thank you.

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149 posted on 11/27/2002 8:35:08 PM PST by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright
Great job, and I wish there were more people like you, who care! God Bless, and have a very happy Thanksgiving!
Best wishes,
Terri
150 posted on 11/27/2002 8:56:48 PM PST by Terridan
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To: Neil E. Wright
SAC BEE.com - SACRAMENTO BEE: "SLAIN RED BLUFF OFFICER IS MOURNED" (ARTICLE NOTE: The suspect is identified as Andrew Hampton McCrae (aka's: Andy, Andrew Mickel, Grant McCrae). (November 27, 2002)
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/5384178p-6371782c.html

My heartfelt sympathy and prayers to the Mobilio family and the friends and co-workers of Officer David Mobilio. This is a very sad story --- a senseless tragedy.
151 posted on 11/27/2002 9:27:43 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FL_engineer
You asked me earlier if I would supply you with the unredacted email addresses of the other receipents of the email. I have receved similar requests from other FReepers and from the media.

At the request of Det. Ron Spurgeon of the Red Bluff PD, I cannot supply the unredacted email addresses for a couple of reasons.

FIRST, there is NO evidence that any of the other addressees had anything to do with this crime.

SECOND, if the list of receipents was made public, the fact that it went to certain receipents could inflame some people, and cause serious repercussions.

I wish I could comply with your request for the information, and I'm sure that you would keep it private, however, in my opinion, and in the opinion of Det. Spurgeon, releasing that information to anyone would serve no purpose, and could be detrimental. I hope you'll understand.

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152 posted on 11/27/2002 9:39:54 PM PST by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright
Passersby left an American flag, flowers and other items at the gas pump at Warners Card Lock Fueling station at 2155 North Main St.in memory of slain Red Bluff Police Officer David Mobilio.
153 posted on 11/27/2002 9:56:39 PM PST by jdontom
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To: jdontom; Grampa Dave; FL_engineer; archy; Militiaman7; Jim Robinson; dcwusmc; Eastbound; ...
Here's a little red meat for the masses before I go to bed .... :)

I was told this Wednesday afternoon while I was talking to the Command Center, and forgot to post it then.

If you look at the pic of ol' Andy, posted earlier on this thread, it appears that he is wearing a headband. I have been advised that it is NOT a headband, but in fact is a bandage.

Here's hoping he "tripped and fell" as he was being taken into custody.

And on this note, I'm gonna go crash and burn. Stay safe everyone! Particularly to our local guardians, our peace officers who patrol the dark streets while we rest.

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154 posted on 11/28/2002 2:01:45 AM PST by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright; FL_engineer
You guys have done brilliant work!

When the Middle East connections to the OKC bombing were first coming out, the main reason I remained sceptical was the unlikelihood of terrorists or spies finding someone like Tim McVeigh. If there is a population of people as nutty as this guy out there, I guess it isn't so far-fetched.

155 posted on 11/28/2002 5:17:02 AM PST by eno_
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To: Neil E. Wright
It appeared to be a big medical wrap around his skull to me when I saw it. He, also, had the look of someone in shock after part of his body came into contact with something harder than his body. Look at his eyes.

Maybe he tried some of his Ranger skills he bragged about and found out without a gun he is just a petty POS!
156 posted on 11/28/2002 6:46:09 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: eno_
We have a lot of home grown hate America kooks of all colors and all political spectrums.

Yesterday in one of the linked articles, an expert on these kooks and their violence noted that there were some strange alliances with these kooks on both sides of the political spectrum. Their common basis was a hatred of America and most Americans.
157 posted on 11/28/2002 6:50:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Cindy
The senseless slaughter/murder of office Mobilio is right out of the terrorist action play book that the Islamkazis have been using in Israel and other countries for about 2 decades.
158 posted on 11/28/2002 6:53:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
So please refrain from conflating these nutbags with mainstream Republicans like me that want to REFORM policing. As it is, these nutbags are the mote compared with the great plank of corruption, waste, and abuse in policing today. If we didn't get so many examples of dangerously (often deadly) bad policing, out-of-control budgets, unconstitutional search and siezure, scams like DARE, etc., everyone would be a lot more sympathetic to the police. To me and a lot of other people, policing is heading in the same direction as public schools: less and less effective and higher and higher costs. Look at the trends in crime solution and reporting rates. They SUCK! Look at the trends in the militarization of policing. Look at Chief Moose and his Cracker Jack box Ph.D. But, like I said, I'm a long-time law-and-order Republican, so convince me: is there any trend within policing that is improving? I'd support it in an instant! Who are the insider reformers? I don't know of any.
159 posted on 11/28/2002 7:22:29 AM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
No one was on PC Moose's case any more than me re his mishandling of the DC sniper murders.

However, this murder will have a real cleansing effect.

Neil is not the only retired cop who is investigating this murder re who has tie ins with this murderer. There will be some revealing stuff as these guys and gals link the tie ins to this cop killer.

Getting rid of PC in all of our police departments is a goal that all of us should work on.

Also, blanket condemnation of our police officers is wrong.
160 posted on 11/28/2002 7:35:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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