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To: The Old Hoosier
I have no problem w/ letting Mexicans in the country legally as long as they assimilate.

We have a big problem in the SW. Ever hear of La Raza and MECHa?

Why is not wanting our country to balkanize racist? 'Pod

103 posted on 11/26/2002 12:39:03 PM PST by sauropod
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To: sauropod
The problem 'pod is that there is a large contingent here on the Forum that do nothing but equate LA RAZA with anything hispanic. It makes as much sense as equating anything caucasian with the Klan. Their purpose is to cloud the issue by linking anything having to do with immigration to these jackals and anyone disagreeing with them as being unpatriotic.

LA RAZA started out as a cultural organization created to help and support not only hispanics but their cultural identity, particularly in the west and southwest. It has been hijacked by militant liberal/socialist extremists and are afforded aid, comfort and cover from the liberal media and particularly liberal educational institutions.

That being said, groups who hold positions like LA RAZA (as the KKK) should be run out of town.

106 posted on 11/26/2002 12:52:06 PM PST by Bob J
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To: sauropod
You're not getting the point.
114 posted on 11/26/2002 1:24:36 PM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: sauropod
My point is, he's at least a moron, and maybe a racist, if he thinks that quote--which is obviously just someone making a rhetorical point to show that opposition to illegal immigration is notracist--is evidence FR has lost its edge. What does he want, a push for an all-white USA?

To write a drawn out, way-too-long-to-say-way-too-little article making this stupid argument is just way, way over the line.

118 posted on 11/26/2002 1:30:36 PM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: sauropod
We have a big problem in the SW. Ever hear of La Raza and MECHa?
La Raza is an extremist group. There are a few characteristics of extremeist groups which are relevant here. One, is that extremist groups tend to cause the formation of extremist groups opposing them, with the groups developing an antagonistic but symbiotic relationship. Two, is that said extremist groups will issue massive propaganda. And three is that such groups, and their corresponding "anti" group both have a vested interest in overstating the membership strength of the groups. La Raza will claim more members than they have, and the groups that oppose them will also claim La Raza has more than they have.

And then there are the sane people not in either of these camps. People like you and me. We have to be dilligent to ensure that the propaganda from either or both sides doesn't get us to lose a clear picture of what is going on.

Is immigration a problem? Absolutely. Is illegal immigration an even bigger problem? Again, yes. Is there a serious movement to reclaim the SW for Mexico that has more than a hundred or two adherents? No, there is not. Any more than there is a Stalinist revolution about to occur in America, the way the SDS has been promising for decades now.

188 posted on 11/29/2002 7:44:54 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: sauropod
103 - "Why is not wanting our country to balkanize racist?"


Most of these people who are arguing racism are very ignorant, and they don't realize that it's not about race, it's about culture.

May all those fools who think culture doesn't matter, move to Mexico, and find out what culture means.

Mexicans are a FREE people, and basically 'white' eg Spanish.
191 posted on 11/29/2002 7:04:22 PM PST by XBob
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