The risks of smoking are greatly exaggerated

TheRecord.com ^ | 20 November 2002 | ERIC BOYD

[Publius6961]

My mother and father could not even run up a few flights of stairs at the age of 50 never mind hiking up and down, 8,000 ft. vertical, in one day. BTW, they are both dead, from the effects of smoking.

You just illustrated the principal point...

According to Darwin, many people shouldn't really survive to adulthood. That they do is a benefit of modern science and medicine.

The problem arrives when public policy is based on people with marginal genes.

Why is it that of the 10 documented longest lived smokers, 9 smoked past age 100?

[Publius6961]

And the Oncologists who treated you followed your "The risks of smoking are greatly exaggerated" screed?

Even an oncologist who believes he is god has better sense than to look stupid saying that to a non-smoker with lung cancer...

[golder]

They could care less. They ACHIEVED their goal! Total control over the people!

You are correct. Although I don't operate a restaurant or cook anymore, the spineless, mind atrophied, smoke nazis now enjoy the delights of Denney's and their ilk.

The truth, they need to get a life. By doing this, they would have no time or desire to meddle in mine. I feel these poor slobs attitude is a direct result of their mindless, do nothing jobs. I say again, get a life, get a real job.

[golder]

Yes, it's bizarre. I suppose some undercover agent saw you smoking and then not washing your hands.

Part of the charm of my restaurant was the exposed kitchen, it was all visible.

[SheLion]

I support what you are doing.

Thank you SO much! You know, we aren’t mindless boobs that think smoking is good for us. But this war on the smokers is just the beginning of the erosion of rights for the American people. I don’t care how they cut it or how they spin it, but when a group of well-funded anti-health fanatics go into a private business and DEMAND that they make their establishment smoke free…….this goes against all the grains of our being.

These well-funded anti-smoking health fanatics with an agenda will stop at nothing to achieve their goal. They will lie boldface to the American public, and the general public believes it. Taking their lies at face value without saying “wait a minute, let me do some research and find out if this is true.” No…….the general public, most of which do not smoke, could care less. It isn’t infringing on THEIR rights, so they do nothing about it. But you just wait! Someday in the not to distant future, the rights of the non smoking general public will be at risk, if we stay on the path that we are going.

Ok, I will get off of my soap box. LOL

[SheLion]

the rabid anti smoker

Rabid????

Rabid = Afflicted with rabies.

Extreme, fanatical

Raging, violent

Smokers are "RABID?" Pretty strange choice of words.

[Ditter]

You obviously have not read my previous posts if you think I have my head in a hole. I will not go back over it for you. Lung cancer or any cancer is not the biggie as far as I am concerned. Every person who smokes is NOT going to get cancer from it. Emphysema is the big tragedy of smoking & *every* smoker gets it. Emphysema has been the major killer either directly or indirectly in my family. If you have ever watched someone strangle on their own phlegm you would know what I mean.

[SheLion]

I say again, get a life, get a real job.

Oh wow! They GOT a job: banning, restricting and controlling smokers!

And since they are SO well funded by the Tobacco Settlement money, they are laughing all the way to the bank.

And smokers who pay taxes on cigarettes are PAYING for this abuse. ugh!

[A Vast RightWing Conspirator]

Smoking aside, it must have been heart-breaking. I am very sorry that such things can happen even though I still can't imagine how they could close your restaurant for one violation of one rule. Perhaps you should read 'Unintended Consequences'. Somehwere, toward the end of the book, there's a story of a dry cleaner's reaction to unwarranted 'regulation'.

[Bogey]

I have read your posts. You choose to make the focus of every one of your arguments smoking causes this and that.
We know your agenda.
Sadly, much of the public believes your spin. Too bad for them.
California continues to have massive respiratory ailments.
In spite of years of being smoke free. And supposedly one of the lowest smoking rates in the country.
This is what the public needs to get. People like you only attempt to fool the public into thinking if they don't smoke
they'll be just fine and never get sick.
The numbers aren't on your side.
But as long as smoking remains the only supposed reason for this, no hope remains for the majority with respiratory problems that don't smoke.
Sorry to pop your bubble, but no one who has lost relatives
to chronic diseases has a fun time watching it.
Many people with emphyesema don't smoke. Sadly, you don't seem to care why?
The American Lung Association clearly states that smoking doen not cause asthma, but asthma rates are escalating.
Why?
There is a much bigger problem causing these illnesses.
People like you only prevent the public from finding out what it is.
Which means massive amounts of non smokers continue to be baffled why they can't breathe. If they don't smoke, this shouldn't happen.
As smoking is banned in 90% of all public places, maybe you can explain it to them. The experts can't.
But for those of us that have seen these problems in our non smoking friends, we are sick of people like you slowing down the progress of finding out the truth.

[Dr. Luv]

"Even an oncologist who believes he is god has better sense than to look stupid saying that to a non-smoker with lung cancer..."

That wasn't the question though - was it?

[Becki]

Yes, they do check for that, the same way they check for TB, Diabetes, and a dozen other illnesses. You just don't have to sign a form for those.

The issue is, they do not base your premiums on the activities that would cause AIDS. That would be discrimination, wouldn't it?

;^ )

Becki

[SheLion]

People like you only prevent the public from finding out what it is.

Exactly. Thank you!!!

[SheLion]

Smoking Does Not Cause Lung Cancer (According to WHO/CDC Data)

hehe!

[Great Dane]

Precisely how have you determined that I am not honest?

For one thing, you bring anecdotes, and expect it to be believed and it is, trouble is when we use anecdotes, they are just that ANECDOTES....... not to be taken seriously.

[Great Dane]

And by the time they get a 6 OUNCE bag of tobacco that cost $5.75 up to $50 dollars a bag, I will be dead. It's going to take that long. It will take a long time to get a 6 oz bag up THAT high.

LOL, suggest you stock up on loose tobacco, ours is now $42 for 200 grams.

[SheLion]

Great Dane! Check out my above post about the WHO and CDC stating that smoking does NOT cause LUNG cancer. hehe!

Wonder how Dr LUV will like THAT one!

[SheLion]

LOL, suggest you stock up on loose tobacco, ours is now $42 for 200 grams.

Oh we do!!! Hubby is going back today to get another load!!!!!!

Of course, HIS are in the RED bags for regular. I smoke Menthol!

[SheLion]

Over Here

[Dr. Luv]

I love conspiracy theory articles, especially ones authored by "James P. Siepmann, MD". I'm sure he also believes the earth is flat, NASA really didn't go to the moon, poison contrails are killing us, crop circles were designed by bigfoot and that Elvis Presley and the Memphis Mafia formed the mysterious Templars of the Christian Brotherhood (TCB) to expose and foil the evil Helter Skelter Conspiracy.

Quit smoking, you may live longer...