Redneck Rampage (Georgia State Flag)

Creative Loafing ^ | November 20, 2002 | Jeff Berry

[WhiskeyPapa]

Walt, I really don't want to get involved in your crusade here, but I do have one question - do you really think the flag was more than 5% of the reason for the Republican sweep in GA?

Seems like I saw a survey that indicated 15% of the voters said the flag was an important issue to them.

Walt

[RogueIsland]

Wow, I'm not hearing a whole lot of tolerance for diversity from this guy.

[Lightnin]

"Do you think Perdue made fun of Dr. King in his victory speech, or not?"

There is much about MLK to make fun of!

[error99]

Why would you post such an insulting article in this forum?
I'm guessing your intent was to post this story as "humor" as it certainly does not qualify as "news".

"Creative Loafing" is one of those free news-papers that are stacked on the street corners in Atlanta to provide an outlet for the social underground (gays, lesbians, strip clubs, tatoo parlors, massage parlors, personal ads, etc.). It is hardly regarded as a credible source of news. Those who pick up a copy, don't read the "editorials". (It would be about like someone buying "Playboy Magazine" for the great stories inside.)

There were many many complex issues that led to the overthrow of (democrat) Roy Barnes. To claim that "the flag issue" was the ONLY issue that led to this is a gross mistatement. To deny that "the flag issue" was AN issue is equally untrue. Georgian's did NOT kick out the Democratic Party, they kicked out Roy Barnes. Many democrats were elected by these same people that you often refer to as "racist rednecks". The situation was like a rare planetary alignment. After 130 years, Georgia has a republican governor. The question in my mind is, "How long will they keep one?"

We know where you stand on this, Walt. It is not necessary that you continually remind us.

[advocate10]

As a proud adopted Son of the South, I'm a Yankee by birth but not by philosophy. I have lived in the wonderful South for almost 20 years now and have learned enough to know you are full of enough ethnocentric crap to stuff your fat behind plus all the other "turkeys" in Yankeedom.

KEEP THE SOUTH BEAUTIFUL!
PUT A YANKEE ON A BUS!

[Jim Noble]

>>the neo-confederate crowd, a shadowy and racist gang of baccer-chewin' morons most city folks had believed to be extinct, if not permanently powerless<<

Misunderestimation.

[from occupied ga]

The LOS had a "humor" link to a site that glorified John Wilkes Booth. Does that strike you funny?

I don't know if it's funny or not. I haven't seen it. Since there was a popular comedy show on TV a couple of decades ago about life in a NAZI POW camp, I suspect that some people can find humor in almost anything.

You know, 31,000 Tennesseans fought for the Union. There were only 400 Georgia Unionists. How does that make you feel, living in the USA and all?

Proud not to live in Tennessee what with the USA currently being 50% of a socialist police state and headed for 100% just as fast as the liberal Republicans and liberal Democrats can get us there.

There is no way to separate the CSA battle emblem from racism, treason, slavery -- and just being pitiful clueless losers. I'm sorry it doesn't suit you that I refuse to identify with that.

I couldn't care less what you associate with what. That's what is called "freedom." If you hate the confederate flag that's fine with me. Your credentials as a genuine southerner remind me of the gun control advocates who always start out saying that they were raised in a hunting family or some similar such twaddle. It's irrelevant. You think like a New Yorker. If you choose to think that withdrawing from a tyrannical central government was treasonous, then again I recommend that you move to a place where more people think just like you do.

And before you get onto a long boring tirade against racism etc., affirmative action is racism, but I don't see you spewing out your venom against the current federal government and it current flag that promulgates this current racism.

[Jim Noble]

>>What you can't seen to deal with is MAJORITY RULE<<

The majority does NOT rule in a constitutional Republic, sir.

[error99]

...My mother's people all come from Cleburne County, Alabama...
Hek far, boy, we'uns juss mite een be reelaited....done dat jus mak yall swail up wid pride? Cuzzin Walt, what ere dun happen to ya boy? Why it is you dun gone an sed them awful thangs what you sed... you wuz allus sich a dang reebellyus chile...hit mus be in ya blud.

[Stakka Skynet]

<"Creative Loafing" is one of those free news-papers that are stacked on the street corners in Atlanta to provide an outlet for the social underground (gays, lesbians, strip clubs, tatoo parlors, massage parlors, personal ads, etc.>

Perhaps he was looking through the personals when he found this insightful article.

[WhiskeyPapa]

hit mus be in ya blud...

Actually, I was driving through Anniston about ten years ago and I had the wierdest sense of deja vu. Even more oddly, I mentioned it to my mom, and she said, "no wonder, that's where all your people are from."

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Worth repeating. There was a CL editorial posted here in the last week, that was complaining about what a right-wing rag the AJC is! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That --is-- pretty funny. :)

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Those who pick up a copy, don't read the "editorials". (It would be about like someone buying "Playboy Magazine" for the great stories inside.)

I do read the lead articles.

And I'm looking for a copy of the October 1970 issue of "Playboy" for the Robert A. Heinlien interview.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

I hate to be the one to tell ya, but you aren't authorized to rewrite history.

I don't have to rewrite it.

Walt

[georgiabelle]

Why would Walt post something like this? For the same reason that he did not give a barf alert. He is so far to the left that he agrees with everything the writer says.

As to why he was reading this type of trash in the first place? You guess. Also this was the only one that he could find that had such a rant. I have not heard you say one word about what the NAACP is doing in SC,. Walt. What's your take on that one. I guess we should just roll over and let the NAACP and Jessie Jackson do what they want. That would be PC and you seem to be really worried about that.

I guess I'm one of those rural Georgians. I live in the hills of North Ga. You know my rusted trailer is hanging off the side of the hill with only 2 cars in the yard on blocks. Of course my 10 hound dogs would eat up anyone that tried to steal my flag. I don't "chaw" but like any southern lady, I "dip". Well I guess I better get out of the library and get home to cook those soup beans and corn pone.

But this redneck did vote and it sure wasn't for Barnes. I would have thought that Walt would have been happy that so many people voted Republican in Ga. Isn't that what we are suppose to do? Vote Republican.

Walt, you sir, are a disgrace to your state and heritage. Really, why do you stay in the South? We are not going to change so get over it.

[WhiskeyPapa]

If you choose to think that withdrawing from a tyrannical central government was treasonous, then again I recommend that you move to a place where more people think just like you do.

The most tyrannical act of the pre-1860 federal government -by far- was the Fugitive Slave Act --the slave states LOVED federal power when it helped them.

For one thing, the slave states had controlled the federal government for decades prior to the ACW. Manufacturing interests need protection -- tariffs. And yet tariffs in this country were LOWER in 1860 than they had been in 40 years. Does that sound like a tyrannical federal government? No. The fact is that the northerners had bent over backwards to maintain the Union, "crucifying", as Abraham Lincoln said in 1854 , "their feelings" in order to maintain their loyalty to the Union and the Constitution.

What the slave power took exception to (and this is plain in their secession documents) was the fact that people in the north were becoming more and more uncomfortable with slavery. Northern states had passed personal liberty laws. They had assisted escaped slaves. They had resisted slave catchers come north to return escaped slaves to their masters. And these actions the slave power found unacceptable. Yancey, one of the main workers in destroying the Democratic Party-- to ensure the election of Lincoln, didn't want northerners to be bothered by the stench of his negroes. He was glad to forestall that -- by breaking up the government of Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Jackson.

You don't know the history, or you lie about it.

Walt

[Cacique]

for your perusal and ping lists

[Stakka Skynet]

"The most tyrannical act of the pre-1860 federal government -by far- was the Fugitive Slave Act --the slave states LOVED federal power when it helped them."

You are starting to sound just like my American History 101 textbook. Which, I might add, is so far left that it makes the New York Times look like NewsMax.

[AnAmericanMother]

No point in arguing with Walt. He's not going to change his mind. Even though the GA political situation has been explained to him many times in the past (I have done so myself, right after the election) he keeps hunting out garbage like this to post.

At the risk of repeating myself: Just about everybody in the state except for the nuts at CL (which is like the Great Speckled Bird but without the class), and the lib loonies at the AJC, understands that Barnes went down in flames on account of a combination of issues that had an underlying common theme: Barnes's heavy-handed, autocratic way of doing business (hence his nickname, "King Roy"). The teachers (ESPECIALLY the teachers), the people whose land was being destroyed for an Outer Perimeter, folks who were redistricted into weirdly shaped districts for petty revenge or Democratic advantage (like me!), people suspicious of his creation of autonomous, unelected, unaccountable government "Authorities" like GRTA . . . the list goes on and on, and they are all mad at Barnes because he shoved his pet projects through without consulting the people or their representatives.

Certainly the flag advocates in the rural areas were annoyed at him, but that has as much to do with the old conflict between the "wool hat farmers" and the boys in Atlanta as it does with the flag or with racism. Those "racists" put a number of good black candidates back into office - such as our Attorney General who is a touch liberal for my taste but a decent, hardworking man who runs a tight ship, hires quality staff, and goes through work like a buzzsaw. Barnes is from suburban Cobb County and is very much a Capitol Hill guy, inside-the-Perimeter lawyer type. Apparently that's the kind of guy the author of this silly rant LIKES . . . in which case he should probably move up north where there are a lot more guys like that.

Give me an honest country boy any time. If you're in trouble, those snobby Atlanta elites will cross over to the other side of the road and pass you by, but country folk will help you and be embarassed by your thanks.

[from occupied ga]

The most tyrannical act of the pre-1860 federal government -by far- was the Fugitive Slave Act --the slave states LOVED federal power when it helped them. In your opinion anyway ... You don't know the history, or you lie about it.

Sniff Sniff Sniff. I smell hypocrisy. Your posting your opinions as history and then claiming that I lie about it requires chutzpah worthy of a New Yorker. Kind of hypocritical of you to ignore the most blatant racism in the US today - affirmative action - and start raving about what happened 140 years ago. What do you think of the current US flag. Should it be changed to some homogenized blob because it is a racist symbol? You didn't make any comments about that before, so I'll ask again.