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Germany sinking even deeper into red
Expatica Communications BV ^ | 22 November 2002

Posted on 11/25/2002 10:06:01 PM PST by John Lenin

Germany sinking even deeper into red

22 November 2002

BERLIN - Germany's spiraling tax revenue shortfall is more than EUR 15 billion deeper in the red than feared, putting the total figure at over EUR 50 billion, Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa learned Friday.

Sources in the German Finance Ministry put the new shortfall for 2002 and 2003 total at EUR 52.5 billion - compared to the EUR 31.4 billion unveiled by a red-faced Finance Minister Hans Eichel announced only last week.

The dpa sources in the ministry's financial planning council said Eichel would summon state and regional officials to Berlin next week for crisis talks on the deficit.

Earlier this week the European Commission launched a formal rebuke against Germany for allowing its 2002 budgetary deficit to breach the eurozone stability pact threshold of 3 per cent of GDP.

European Monetary Affairs Commissioner Pedro Solbes announced the decision when he presented a report on the state of the German budget.

The move follows last week's assessment by the commission that Germany's budget deficit would rise to 3.8 per cent of GDP this year, falling to 3.1 per cent in 2003.

The dpa sources said Friday that Eichel still hopes to keep the deficit at 2.75 per cent of GDP, and that that goal will be the focus of talks with state and regional leaders next week in Berlin.

DPA


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With strikes in France it could get worse.
1 posted on 11/25/2002 10:06:01 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
Wiedersehen!
2 posted on 11/25/2002 10:30:39 PM PST by Righty1
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To: John Lenin
Schadenfreude.
3 posted on 11/26/2002 12:19:41 AM PST by Malesherbes
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Thanks for the article. Its like a ray of sunshine on my day.
4 posted on 11/26/2002 7:07:53 AM PST by nypokerface
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To: John Lenin
Gees, with all those weapons grade sales of equipment
to Iraq you would think that France and Germany would be doing great. Go figure.
5 posted on 11/26/2002 8:23:16 AM PST by ottersnot
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To: John Lenin; knighthawk
Raising taxes in a recession doesn't make much sense. What will it take to make the German leftists see that cuts in welfare state benefits are really the only choice they have?
6 posted on 11/26/2002 8:26:26 AM PST by aristeides
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To: John Lenin
To quote MadIvan "HOLD MEIN BIER". I wonder how much foreign aid will the Germans beg for this year.
7 posted on 11/26/2002 9:47:01 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Malesherbes
" Germany sinking even deeper into red "

snicker... American translation of Schadenfreude

8 posted on 11/26/2002 9:50:24 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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Don't forget we are heavily invested in Germany. If they go down it will affect our investment portfolios. After WWII we bought Germany.
9 posted on 11/26/2002 3:20:58 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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German electorate, apparently totally unable to smell strong coffee brewing in Netherlands, Denmark, Austria, and maybe even France, voted a couple of months ago in their sleep and have elected a government that cannot possibly be allowed to complete its term in office--

It should hardly be allowed even to TAKE office!

It gives me no great comfort to say this, but a man needs to ride in from the wings on a brown horse and take that country over, dismissing all non-German ethnic residents, and making strong claims for due justice and return of all German lands and rights now held in Poland, Czech Rep., and yes even Konigsberg.

Now I will get flamed, among other reasons, by those saying such a thing is impossible, could never take place in today's Europe. It will dash so many bright hopes and delusive dreams. It may even be many months or a few years away, but be careful. He is on his way, I hear his foot steps.

10 posted on 11/26/2002 3:27:50 PM PST by crystalk
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Liberal Europe instead of China could be this country's next big adversary. When their liberalism crashes their ecomomy, who do you think they will blame?
11 posted on 11/26/2002 3:28:32 PM PST by my right
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who do you think they will blame?

Everyone but themselves.

12 posted on 11/26/2002 7:24:51 PM PST by staytrue
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To: crystalk
Yes, the Jews are undoubtedly responsible for Germany's current state of affairs.
13 posted on 11/26/2002 7:31:05 PM PST by Friedrich Hayek
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To: crystalk
I don't think Adolf has a brown horse.
14 posted on 11/26/2002 9:21:36 PM PST by expatpat
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To: John Lenin
Sources in the German Finance Ministry put the new shortfall for 2002 and 2003 total at EUR 52.5 billion ...

We (USA) did that much last month.

15 posted on 11/26/2002 9:32:08 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: crystalk
Getting some of their "disputed" lands back would not add one mark er... Euro to their economic improvement.

Germany is in trouble because they are a socialist country whose overly generous benefits to both working and retired citizens is finally coming due.

If they stay on the same track it will only get worse.

16 posted on 11/26/2002 9:34:13 PM PST by spectre
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I don't think we're that invested in Germany. Sure, most big companies have operations there: Coke, Ford, etc., but they have operations everywhere. And Germany isn't going away, it's just going to decline a few percent. Hardly a blip in McDonald's or Microsoft's worldwide sales.

As far as purchasing stocks in German companies, some mutual funds have bought German companies. There's Daimler Chrysler, but they've also got substantial operations in the US. And Deutsche Bank has invested much more in the US than any US bank has invested in Germany. But there aren't that many German companies that are listed in the United States.

Germany does buy a fair amount of consumer products from American companies, and we buy a fair amount of their automobiles, machine tools, and beer, among other things.

So yes, Germany and the US are linked, but they need us a hell of a lot more than we need them.

17 posted on 11/26/2002 9:41:29 PM PST by Koblenz
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To: crystalk
God willing Schroeder will lose his Chancellorship in a vote of no confidence, and a new Chancellor can be elected from the Christian Democrats and set things straight for Germany.
18 posted on 11/26/2002 10:43:48 PM PST by JohnnyRidden
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To: Friedrich Hayek
That would appear unlikely, for there are few Jews IN the country now.

The problem IMHO is addiction to Socialism, a greying population, unwillingness to break out of established little safe paths, lack of innovation and daring.

WhatEVER the problem is, this present newly elected regime is garbage and needs to be taken out. Then a start can be made.

The so-called Free Democrat party ought to be made the largest party in the country, and it needs some national or rightist party for a coalition partner, but if any party of that stripe arises there, irrational fears of neo-Nazism doom it.

I still say the man is in waiting, and about to appear in a matter of 2 or 3 years or less.

To other poster responding, as far as I know I never saw Hitler pictured on horseback.

19 posted on 11/27/2002 6:23:38 AM PST by crystalk
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return of all German lands and rights now held in Poland

The Krauts can keep their filthy hands off of Polish lands. They have no rights to anything in Poland.

20 posted on 11/27/2002 7:14:50 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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