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To: Hank Kerchief
Let's see ... there was more freedoms at the beginnings of this nation, than there are now . Is that what you think ? How many slaves are owned, by American citizens now, as opposed to in 1780 ? How many people have been thrown into debtors' prisons, today, as opposed to in 1780 ? How many people are indentured servants, restrained from voting ( and I AM talking about citizens ! )because they are black, female, don't own land , today , as opposed to 1780 ? The list of " good " things, that people, in high governemt office , have enacted, throughout this nation's history, is vast. Yes, there HAVE been some missteps and some horrid overstepping ; however, you vision of previous American history, is the Disnyfied, prettied up version.

Complete freedom ( which this nation's populace NEVER had ! ) is anarchy and chaos. Try reading factual histories; instead of rose colored glass, revisionistic ones.

112 posted on 11/25/2002 8:54:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Let's see ... there was more freedoms at the beginnings of this nation, than there are now . Is that what you think ? How many slaves are owned, by American citizens now, as opposed to in 1780?

Right, exactly. We don't even have the freedom to own slaves anymore.

(I see the "big issue" to you is, "freedom to vote," which is nothing more than being given the choice of one's executioner.)

Hank

230 posted on 11/26/2002 6:33:50 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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