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To: MissMillie
Why should you resort to violence? You're the one with the kids and the positive cash flow.

In the state of Michigan, a woman has the right to kill her husband if he is threatening the life of her fetus, (punching her, etc.), then go out and get an abortion. All legal.

I read a case about a man who went to jail because he wasn't keeping up with his child support payments. He made $40,000 per year and he was required to pay $16,000 per year. This means that, after paying roughly $16,000 in state and federal income taxes and paying his ex-wife $16,000, he was supposed to live on $8,000 per year and continue to give his ex twice that. Meanwhile, she gets to keep all her income, the kids and twice as much of his income as he gets to keep. How do you live on $8,000 per year?

Also, when he fails to pay he not only goes to jail but the meter does not stop running while he's inside. When he gets out six months later, he is expected to cough up the money he was in arrears when he went in plus the $8,000 he racked up while in jail. If he doesn't pay right away, she can put him right back in and bury him even more. When he tries to get custody of his kids back and put a stop to the madness they say he's a bad father because he didn't pay his child support.

This also applies to men in cases who later find out that their wife had cheated on them and that they were not even the father of the children in question to begin with. If a few years have already gone by when they discover the truth, the courts consider the precedent to have been set and require the man to continue the payments anyway.

For those who know all this, some women realize that they don't really have to have the obligations of having a husband and can still get all the benefits of having one. In these cases, it is the system that encourages divorce in the first place.

A woman doesn't really have to get married in the first place. All she has to do is get a guy drunk at a bar and get knocked up. Since there is no such thing as a woman raping a man, there's no problem. Come to think of it, an adult woman can rape a thirteen year old boy. But guess what? Even if she goes to jail for raping him, when she gets out, she or her relatives can potentially get custody and the kid can be made to pay custody for his kid until his kid is eighteen even though he himself is not eighteen. In fact, this can happen even if the thirteen year old's mother is herself receiving child support for him.

Child support laws represent the worst form of indentured servitude enforced by debtors prison that has existed in America since the slaves were freed. Meanwhile, it only applies to men, not women. If have yet to hear of a single case of a woman going to jail for not paying child support. The only woman I know who has ever been ordered to pay it has to give her ex husband twenty dollars per month. I don't think she does.

You were saying something about not understanding why some men resort to violence?

41 posted on 11/25/2002 12:37:05 PM PST by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
Before my husband had custody of his sons, he was ordered to pay $1,200 to his ex-wife in child support plus pay for medical insurance. After he won custody she was ordered to pay - zip, zero, not a dime. She doesn't work, is female and therefore immune to paying for her children. That's family courts for you.
51 posted on 11/25/2002 7:23:54 PM PST by Brytani
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
Yep, there are some bad court orders out there. But, as I indicated, the overwhelming advantage goes to men. Half of all children entitled to support even have an order, and less than half of those who do have court orders actually get what their order stipulates.

So yes... I don't understand the violence.

55 posted on 11/26/2002 6:42:53 AM PST by MissMillie
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