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Musical chairs 'too violent'
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Posted on 11/25/2002 7:10:31 AM PST by Jalapeno

Musical chairs 'too violent'


The booklet says children should be taught to co-operate

The traditional children's party game of musical chairs has been accused of breeding violence. A booklet, launched by the Education Minister Margaret Hodge, says that nursery schools should consider playing a less aggressively competitive game - such as musical statues.

Towards a Non-Violent Society, the booklet produced by the Forum on Children and Violence, argues that musical chairs only rewards the "strongest and fastest".

The Department for Education has distanced itself from the publication, saying that it neither funds nor distributes the booklet - and it says there is no ban on the game being advocated.

Instead it says that the booklet "merely advises that teachers might think of less confrontational alternatives".

But the Conservative education spokeswoman, Theresa May, called the advice "political correctness gone mad".

"Children have playedand enjoyed musical chairs for years," she said.

"This is yet more interference by a government, not content with just telling teachers what to do, they are now telling children what games they can and cannot play."


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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
LOL! Good to know, at my next children's birthday party I will make sure the pinata is all white..
41 posted on 11/25/2002 8:26:33 AM PST by ewing
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To: WaveThatFlag
You must live on the left coast.
42 posted on 11/25/2002 8:38:28 AM PST by clintonsgohome
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To: clintonsgohome
Westchester county NY. Home of Bill Clinton and Nita Lowey.
43 posted on 11/25/2002 8:39:35 AM PST by WaveThatFlag
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To: WaveThatFlag
That's scary,I live not far away/OHIO. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!
44 posted on 11/25/2002 8:52:52 AM PST by clintonsgohome
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To: mhking
I guess Smear the Queer is also not allowed at this school....not mentioned in the article, I just have a hunch.
45 posted on 11/25/2002 8:58:51 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: clintonsgohome
what is musical statues???
46 posted on 11/25/2002 9:02:26 AM PST by contessa machiaveli
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To: Jalapeno
"What is a Caucus-race?" said Alice; not that she wanted much to know, but the Dodo had paused as if it thought that SOMEBODY ought to speak, and no one else seemed inclined to say anything.

"Why," said the Dodo, "the best way to explain it is to do it." (And, as you might like to try the thing yourself, some winter day, I will tell you how the Dodo managed it.)

First it marked out a race-course, in a sort of circle, ("the exact shape doesn"t matter," it said,) and then all the party were placed along the course, here and there. There was no "One, two, three, and away," but they began running when they liked, and left off when they liked, so that it was not easy to know when the race was over. However, when they had been running half an hour or so, and were quite dry again, the Dodo suddenly called out "The race is over!" and they all crowded round it, panting, and asking, "But who has won?"

This question the Dodo could not answer without a great deal of thought, and it sat for a long time with one finger pressed upon its forehead (the position in which you usually see Shakespeare, in the pictures of him), while the rest waited in silence. At last the Dodo said, "Everybody has won, and all must have prizes."

"But who is to give the prizes?" quite a chorus of voices asked.

"Why, she, of course," said the Dodo, pointing to Alice with one finger; and the whole party at once crowded round her, calling out in a confused way, "Prizes! Prizes!"

Alice had no idea what to do, and in despair she put her hand in her pocket, and pulled out a box of comfits, (luckily the salt water had not got into it), and handed them round as prizes. There was exactly one a-piece all round.

"But she must have a prize herself, you know," said the Mouse.

"Of course," the Dodo replied very gravely. "What else have you got in your pocket?" he went on, turning to Alice.

"Only a thimble," said Alice sadly.

"Hand it over here," said the Dodo.

Then they all crowded round her once more, while the Dodo solemnly presented the thimble, saying "We beg your acceptance of this elegant thimble"; and, when it had finished this short speech, they all cheered.

Alice thought the whole thing very absurd, but they all looked so grave that she did not dare to laugh; and, as she could not think of anything to say, she simply bowed, and took the thimble, looking as solemn as she could.

47 posted on 11/25/2002 9:28:40 AM PST by steve-b
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To: clintonsgohome
My local grammar school outlawed Halloween this year because some kids get a complex when their parents can't afford store-bought costumes.
48 posted on 11/25/2002 9:34:33 AM PST by WaveThatFlag
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To: Jalapeno
I amazes me that I survived childhood and didn't turn into a murdering psychopath.

After all, I played:
Tag
Red Rover
Dodge Ball
Musical Chairs
Army
British Bulldog (tackle tag)
Football
King of the Hill
Plus others I can't remember at the moment

The red diaper babies of Boomer generation (and their weird spawn) are sure trying to screw with kids minds. Have they ever thought that perhaps aggressive games help kids grow up physically and emotionally?
49 posted on 11/25/2002 10:22:46 AM PST by hattend
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To: WaveThatFlag; RogueIsland
As a Denver Bronco fan I found the ending of that episode insulting.

Not really, that's my favorite episode of the Simpsons.

51 posted on 11/25/2002 10:27:35 AM PST by hattend
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To: Jalapeno
The surest way to undermine the Capitalist System is by eliminating the concept of competition. Then we can all enjoy the fruits of the glorious worker's paradise envisioned by Liberal Dimocrats!
52 posted on 11/25/2002 10:27:38 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Destructor
The surest way to undermine the Capitalist System is by eliminating the concept of competition. Then we can all enjoy the fruits of the glorious worker's paradise envisioned by Liberal Dimocrats!

They always forget to answer the eternal question, "Who's going to work?"

53 posted on 11/25/2002 10:38:02 AM PST by meyer
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To: hattend
My gawd man!! You must be just nano-seconds away from going "postal!" I think a Constitutional Amendment against games like these will be a start in the right direction for the safety of the republic < sarcasm off! > Ah, social engineering at work in the playground, pretty soon it will be illegal to dream in color!!
54 posted on 11/25/2002 10:39:55 AM PST by Fighter@heart
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To: Marysecretary
What next! If they did that here, I'd have a flying fit and every newspaper in the area would get one of my letters to the editor (I used to be famous for them years ago when I wrote for the local paper.). That's outrageous. They're trying to turn our kids into little puppets, with no sense of accomplishment at all. This is sickening.

The game is puppetry in its original form; I never would play it.

55 posted on 11/25/2002 12:46:52 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: steve-b
By George! I think you've got it.
56 posted on 11/25/2002 12:53:46 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Jalapeno
They must be talking about the time I (who hates to lose) shoved another little girl clear off the chair, while the teacher wasn't looking.
57 posted on 11/25/2002 12:55:17 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Jalapeno
In a related story, the game of "Musical Chairs" is to be replaced by "Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck."
58 posted on 11/25/2002 12:57:01 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Jalapeno
Towards a Non-Violent Society, the booklet produced by the Forum on Children and Violence, argues that musical chairs only rewards the "strongest and fastest".

I beg to differ. First of all, I was not anywhere near the stongest or fastest kid in my elementary school, and I was very good at musical chairs. Second, Trivial Pursuit only rewards the person who has the best trivia filter in their brain (often the smartest person in the group, but not always) so should we make sure children never play it?

59 posted on 11/25/2002 4:36:50 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: WaveThatFlag
"Little baseball in my town no longer has outs. Outs were deemed to have a negative effect on children's sense of self-worth"

When I coached T-Ball a few years back we had similar rules. No winners, no losers, no scoring. The kids were fairly enthusiastic but not really enjoying the game as I thought they should.

Toward the end of the season I would hold practice by dividing my team into two separate entities and have them play each other while keeping score. They suddenly became serious baseball players who enjoyed the game immensely. It was night and day.

60 posted on 11/25/2002 4:41:59 PM PST by groanup
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