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LITTLE WHITE LIES (Administration tells about Islam)
Chronicles Magazine ^ | November 22, 2002 | Thomas Fleming

Posted on 11/24/2002 7:38:43 PM PST by Keyes For President

"From the mountains of Afghanistan to the valleys of Bosnia to the plains of Africa to the forests of Asia and around the world we are on the ground working with our Muslim partners to expand to the circle of peace, the circle of prosperity, the circle of freedom." Secretary of State Colin Powell, in pronouncing these glorious phrases (we hope he did not actually break precedent and write them himself) sounded like a Fourth of July orator invoking the rock-bound cliffs of Maine and the sunny shores of California.

Secretary Powell is apparently unaware that there are forests in Africa and plains in Asia, but the myopia is pardonable when you are running circles around the rest of the world. What the secretary would prefer not to bring up is the fact that in both Africa and Asia Muslims, many of them funded by "pro-Western" governments and oil sheiks, are engaged in a genocidal massacre of Christians. Presumably the genocide in Nigeria and the Sudan is not the partnership Secretary Powell envisions, presumably the Islamic terrorism in Indonesia and the Philippines is somewhat outside the circle. In Bosnia, where the United States supported an Islamic that wanted to impose Islamic law on a Christian majority, one of our Muslim partners was none other than Osama bin Laden.

Not content with repeating the palpable absurdities that are the staple of the multiculturalist left--a critic of the administration would use harsher language--Powell went on to describe plans to bring more Muslims into the United States and to excoriate those who sing "the siren song of the bigots, extremists who cloak themselves in false spirituality in an attempt to divide and to weaken us." Whether he was talking about Osama bin Laden or Pat Robertson (guilty recently of hinting that Islam may not be entirely a religion of peace), was not entirely clear upon the first reading of the AP report of Powell's address to a group of Muslim leaders. But if by "bigots and extremists," Powell means Muslims who claim religious support for terrorism against Christians, then he should have named the man who introduced this belief into Islamic thought: Muhammad himself.

We all know that the Bush administration is caught between a rock and a hard place. They are going to war against a country full of Muslims (Iraq), supporting what may be Bibi Netanyahu's quest for a final solution of the Palestinian problem, while still wanting to make nice with oil-rich states we pretend to believe are "moderate." There is nothing moderate, from the Christian point of view, about Saudi Arabia, which forbids Christian symbols and preaching the gospel and funds anti-Christian Islamic movements around the globe. Saudi Arabia spawned Osama bin Laden--and the Saudi millionaires who continue, according to reports, to support him.

Pat Robertson has the issue right. He knows that Islam, despite the existence of millions of "bad" Muslims who reject some of the fundamental tenets of their faith, is a religion of war not peace, that any country with a sizable population of even bad Muslims contains a ticking time bomb, ready to go off in hard times when confused people begin looking for their spiritual roots. When Christians find their roots, they find the Prince of Peace. When Muslims rediscover theirs, it is Muhammad the terrorist.

I wish no ill to Muslims, either as human beings or as adherents of a religion I reject. I would like to leave Muslims alone, in exchange for being left alone. I do not support, at this point, the planned invasion of Iraq, and I agree with the many patriotic Israelis who realize that Sharon and Netanyahu, egged on by their supporters in the United States, may well bring about the total destruction of Israel. I cannot, however, swallow the lie that Islam, as a religion, is compatible with our Western way of life or that global terrorism is not a legitimate expression of authentic Islam.

So long as America's political leaders continue to treat the people as children, so long as they continue to misrepresent the most basic facts of the life-and-death struggle confronting America and the West, our foreign policy will be confused and dangerous, and our control of our own borders and destiny will become more tenuous with every passing day.

Telling fairy tales about a nonexistent partnership with terrorists in order to justify the importation of more Muslims may seem, to State Department staffers and gofers, like a brilliant move. In the short run it might bump President Bush from being, at the moment, the most popular Republican in the century-and-a-half history of his party to being the most popular Republican who will ever live. But in telling their little white lies, they are playing with fire, as many a parent has learned after lying to his children. When the time comes to ask the American people to defend their borders and their interest from a global jihad, these lies will inevitably come back to haunt them.

P.S. Our Muslim Partners Expand the Circle

Nigeria is in "the forests of Africa," where Colin Powell says our Muslim partners are "expanding the circle of peace." The past few days, however, our Muslim partners in Kaduna (a large town in northern Nigeria), have not been listening to Secretary Powell's speeches: They were too busy killing Christians and burning their churches.

The trouble started when a newspaperman, knowing the Prophet's eye for beauty, suggested that Mohammed himself would have approved of the Miss World Contest. To protest this affront, Muslims (no, not radical Islamicists, but Muslims) first burned down the newspaper and then went on a killing spree that left more than 100 people dead and 500 injured. Some of the victims--all or mostly Christians, so far as we can tell--had been stabbed first and then set on fire. According to the AP story, "hordes of young men, shouting "Allahu Akhbar," or "God is great," ignited makeshift street barricades made of tires and garbage, sending plumes of black smoke rising above the city." Although it is now that Muslims started the riot and destroyed at least four churches, a later AP story, published in the Washington Post, preferred to give the impression that Christians were to blame for the violence: "In neighborhoods dominated by minority Christians...youths smashed windows and set fires in mosques used by the ethnic Hausa and Fulani Muslims who dominate Kaduna."

Kaduna, though the majority of the population is Muslim, has a sizeable Christian minority. Of course, Christian and pagan Nigerians have fought back against the Muslims' violence, but what Western reporters like to call a civil war or ethnic conflict in northern Nigeria is nothing less than an ongoing genocide. The next time Colin Powell is chatting it up with our Muslim partners, he might ask them about the millions and millions of dollars they have poured into Africa for the sole purpose of exterminating Christianity--and, of course Christians--on that continent.

On the same day Nigerian Muslims were crying "down with beauty," another peaceful Muslim was taken into custody in Indonesia on the charge of plotting the terror-bombing in Bali that claimed 200 victims, and still another peaceful Muslim (Palestinian, this time) tried to blow up a busload of schoolchildren, and still another Palestinian Muslim in nearby Lebanon murdered an American Christian whose sole crime was preaching the Christian gospel of peace.

This has not been an unusual week. Every day around the globe committed Muslims are murdering and massacring Christians, and yet American politicians go on pretending that these criminals are merely a handful of extremists. Only this September, Antony Sullivan--longtime whitewasher of Islamic aggression--called upon President Bush to remove "Sudan from the list of terrorist-sponsoring states, though Dr. Sullivan knows full well that the Sudanese regime has refused to end the orgy of terrorism and violence directed at is own Christian population.

In repeating the mantra that "Islam is a religion of peace," our leaders are acting like children who protect themselves from the bogeymen by pulling the covers up over their heads--except in this case, the bogeymen are real.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; islam; powell; religionofpeace; ropma
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To: Luis Gonzalez
If you want sources consult earlier threads here or go visit the library of congress.
61 posted on 11/24/2002 9:45:08 PM PST by RLK
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To: CWOJackson
Third time's a charm?
62 posted on 11/24/2002 9:45:43 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: RLK
In other words, and as usual, nothing of any substance from you.
63 posted on 11/24/2002 9:50:39 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: CWOJackson
Didn't we do the killing Muslims in the name of Christianity thing a couple of times already?

Well I know that we have killed a lot of fellow Christians and a lot of fellow Christians have killed us. In every case each side had "God on its side". I want to kill those that have harmed us and I do not want to do it in the name of God.

64 posted on 11/24/2002 9:50:41 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Not posting anything, sorry.
I disdain the ignorant's outraged demand for "source".
A lifetime of real education is difficult to post in words small enough for you to understand.

I will give you a clue though.

Go to the National Geographic site and take the kiddies geography quiz.

Read fast, LOL

65 posted on 11/24/2002 9:51:21 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: CWOJackson
On November 27, 1095, Pope Urban II gave an important speech at the end of a church council in Clermont, France. In it he called upon the nobility of Western Europe, the Franks, to go to the East and assist their Christian brothers, the Byzantines, against the attacks of the Muslim Turks. He also apparently encouraged them to liberate Jerusalem, the most sacred and beloved city in Christendom, from the domination of Muslims who had ruled it since taking it from the Christian Byzantines in A.D. 638. Several versions of this speech have survived, and although we cannot be sure of the exact words the Pope used, the general outlines of his speech are fairly clear.

Source

Islam was founded a good 400 years prior to this, and by 1095 had conquered a good part of Mediterranian Europe. The Crusades were a response to that aggressive expansion of Islam...

66 posted on 11/24/2002 9:51:22 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: CWOJackson
What isn't relevent is branding an entire religion based on the actions of a fanatical minority.

How many people participated in the crusades? My guess is that it was a fanatical minority. However, the many that did not stop it are judged by history. Today's muslims must stop what is going on. If it is only a "fanatical minority", the job should be easy.
67 posted on 11/24/2002 9:52:02 PM PST by self_evident
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To: Publius6961
"I disdain the ignorant's outraged demand for "source".

In other words, your tactics are no different than a rabid Wahhabi Iman..."Believe what I tell you."

"Not posting anything, sorry."

No surprise there.

68 posted on 11/24/2002 9:55:14 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You flunked the kiddies Geography quiz?

And other world facts?

No surprise there...

69 posted on 11/24/2002 9:58:09 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: CWOJackson
BTW, while I haven't missed you, I have noted your dearth of posts. Did your coast guard boat get out farther than you could wade to shore? I know that's a failing of the USCG, even with the training wheels you have on your "ships" and all. I guess the deep end of the ocean (like the gene pool) isn't suited to you guys, is it? ;^)
70 posted on 11/24/2002 9:58:58 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: self_evident
Whose side was God on in WW2 European theater? Was he on the side of our Atheist allies the Red Army? Was he against the Italian and German Christians that were killed by the hundreds of thousands?
71 posted on 11/24/2002 9:59:35 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Publius6961
Yet one more lacking substance.

I see you have nothing but personal attacks left.

Bye.

72 posted on 11/24/2002 10:00:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: dcwusmc
I know that's a failing of the USCG, even with the training wheels you have on your "ships" and all. I guess the deep end of the ocean (like the gene pool) isn't suited to you guys, is it? ;^)

Pretty low.

73 posted on 11/24/2002 10:02:24 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Bye.

Promise?
Back to the Jihad library?

Remember... read faster. You got 1400 years of history to cover.

74 posted on 11/24/2002 10:03:36 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Someone who demands sources in the face of unbelievably overwhelming facts is someone who is not worthwhile to discuss with.

The sources are out there. There are not 2 billion islamics, not even close.

And if there were, who cares.. Evil is evil, no matter the number of believers.
75 posted on 11/24/2002 10:04:10 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I don't believe some asshole heard voices from God, angels, or was divinely inspired 1,500 years ago. He and his followers are nuts and dangerous. If you can prove he heard such voices or revelations, show me such proof. As far as I'm concerned the Koran is nothing but the recorded utterances of a madman that intrigue the hysterical and suggestable.
76 posted on 11/24/2002 10:05:01 PM PST by RLK
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To: Keyes For President
BUMP
77 posted on 11/24/2002 10:06:23 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Keyes For President
Pat Robertson has the issue right. He knows that Islam, despite the existence of millions of "bad" Muslims who reject some of the fundamental tenets of their faith, is a religion of war not peace, that any country with a sizable population of even bad Muslims contains a ticking time bomb, ready to go off in hard times when confused people begin looking for their spiritual roots. When Christians find their roots, they find the Prince of Peace. When Muslims rediscover theirs, it is Muhammad the terrorist.


FROM THE STORY BUMP
78 posted on 11/24/2002 10:07:57 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Monty22
Post them.

If I am so wrong, it should be a cinch to prove me wrong.

BTW, Christianity Today acknowledges that figure, even while understimating their numbers.

What I see here is the total inability of a bunch of people to do little more than attack me, while being unable to substantiate their figures.

79 posted on 11/24/2002 10:09:25 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Monty22
Every day around the globe committed Muslims are murdering and massacring Christians, and yet American politicians go on pretending that these criminals are merely a handful of extremists.

from story at top!

TRUTH
80 posted on 11/24/2002 10:10:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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