[Cicero]

It's been obvious since a week or two after 9/11 that they are not our friends. Unlike Pakistan, they have not cooperated with us, and if anyone thinks they will come up with a full report on the Princess's expenditures, I have a bridge to sell them.

I doubt whether Bush really expects the Saudis to help against Iraq much if at all. It's just a good excuse to keep talking and to keep acting as if we need something from them--which we don't. But it's too soon for an open break.

[Moonmad27]

I agree with you. I believe GWB knows that the Saudis are more involved than has been let on, and I have faith he'll handle this problem well too (glad it came out after the elections or the Dems would have made a huge deal out of it). It's the same thing with the White House's "islam is peace" pronouncements - they know the whole war is really a clash of cultures, Islam versus everyone else, but it really isn't "politically correct" in the true sense of the word to say it out loud.

[recalcitrant]

it's too soon for an open break.

--- why?