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I was at the game. It just wasn't the undergraduate students, but a mix of alcohol-laden alums and some people who never attended college. Really a major embarrasment for a major university.

What to do? Clearly, the vast majority of people on the field (and at the parties afterwards) were drunk. Do we give everyone a breath test before admission? Do we prohibit gatherings after football games? Or is it up to the people in question to learn to control their behavior? In our "blame others" society, people refuse to accept responsibility for their behavior; hence, laws are adopted to reduce to everyone's freedoms. Likely, OSU and the City of Columbus will ban public gatherings after the games (where alcohol is served) and invoke a police state after the games (with $10,000 fines).

It is important to realize that the few are willing to impose major costs on the rest of us. They are too stupid to recognize that liberty requires hard work and self-restraint. Otherwise ...
68 posted on 11/24/2002 10:41:17 AM PST by TonyS6
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Trash litters the streets surrounding Ohio State University as city workers replace light posts destroyed by fans celebrating Ohio States victory over Michigan Saturday.


73 posted on 11/24/2002 10:51:42 AM PST by ewing
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To: TonyS6
It is important to realize that the few are willing to impose major costs on the rest of us. T
hey are too stupid to recognize that liberty requires hard work and self-restraint.


I hope I didn't come off as some "holier-than-thou" moralist from off the plains.

And these radical outbursts happen at just about every geographic location.

But I guess that some folks just don't get the idea that making a mess of things
makes things unpleasant for other folks.

Maybe these rowdy-types didn't get the benefit of a two-year hitch in the US military,
where they'd learn that when one person in the group screws up, everyone
else pays the price (and are NOT happy with the screw-up).

Maybe the miscreants should be sentenced to watch the "midnight revenge"
episode in "Full Metal Jacket" with the "Pvt. Pyle" character...and told that
when they riot after a sports event, they are just as screwed up.

Hmmm...wonder if some American males would be more ashamed to have their
arrest for rioting publically announced...than for solicitiing prostitution.
Now maybe there is something to think about, law enforcement types...
88 posted on 11/24/2002 12:37:54 PM PST by VOA
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