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American Jewry's Outdated Orthodoxy
The Jewish Press ^ | 11-22-02 | Steven Plaut

Posted on 11/23/2002 5:51:35 AM PST by alan alda

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1 posted on 11/23/2002 5:51:35 AM PST by alan alda
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To: alan alda
Haifa U is crawling with Tenured Traitors and Marxies like Illan Pappe. Steve Plaut is one of the few professors on the campus to the right of Meretz and that's largely because he's a lecturer in that "dismal science," economics. An appreciation for real world market goings-on is enough to make a conservative out of about just any one. With the singular exception of the American Paul Krugman, one is hard pressed to named a liberal economist. Needless to say, Steve is also a wonderful e-mail list maintainer AND a wonderful satirist on all things Israeli, Jewish, Leftist, and liberal, though decidedly not in any particular order.
2 posted on 11/23/2002 6:01:59 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Yehuda
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3 posted on 11/23/2002 1:49:20 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: dennisw
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4 posted on 11/23/2002 1:49:41 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: goldstategop; jonatron; michaelje; maryz
As a Conservitive Protestant I have never understood Jewish liberalism or for that matter Liberal Catholics. This issue has me confused, the most conservitive people I know are Jews and Catholics as are the most liberal people I know,
5 posted on 11/23/2002 2:19:39 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: NativeNewYorker; monkeyshine; ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; ...
PING!


6 posted on 11/23/2002 3:10:42 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Little Bill
I am quite confused by it myself...

This may be the most insightful article that I've ever read on the subject of liberal Jews. It explains the pathology that I've seen over and over again, not just in the world around me, but in my own family as well.

Mark
7 posted on 11/23/2002 4:24:35 PM PST by MarkL
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To: dennisw
So, then, far from being a movement whose time has passed, Zionism can play a vital opposition role to the liberal pseudo-Judaism of the Diaspora. Because Zionism, whatever its other shortcomings, is necessarily and quintessentially a negation of the assimilationist ``Liberalism as Judaism`` orthodoxy that dominates American (and other Western) Jewry.

Agreed.

8 posted on 11/23/2002 5:20:38 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: alan alda
100% on the mark.
9 posted on 11/23/2002 5:33:08 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: dennisw
Good article. I had to stop reading the Jewish Press...

I kept on grinding my teeth!

10 posted on 11/23/2002 9:08:27 PM PST by Nachum
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...I had to stop reading the Jewish Press...

I kept on grinding my teeth!

Was that because of the Jewish Press' well documented accounts of liberal Jewish perfidy? My own take is that The Jewish Press is very conservative, and publishes many conservative commentators. the JP is one of the few Jewish voices of sanity.

11 posted on 11/23/2002 9:22:32 PM PST by NorthernRight
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Or, as right-wing Jewish talk-radio host Dennis Prager put it at my synagogue in 1993, "the real religion of most American Jews is liberalism - not Judaism."

Read Steven Plaut's weekly column in Alamance Independent.

12 posted on 11/23/2002 9:29:55 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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Was that because of the Jewish Press' well documented accounts of liberal Jewish perfidy?

Well, it is more that reading the accounts depressed me. It is kind of like the joke about the two Jews riding a train in communist Russia. One was reading a government publication full of lies, and the other was reading a local Jewish paper about the latest atrocities visited on the Jews by the communists. Finally, the Jew who was reading the truthful account could not stand it anymore and spoke to his fellow Jew on the train-

"Tell me reb Yid, why are you reading that horrible paper of communist lies! It says that Jews have all the power, money, and are persecuting the gentiles."

The other Jew put down his paper and said thoughtfully:

"I used to read the paper you do and it depressed me. It had nothing but bad news, the lastest arrest, pogrom, or persecution. Now I read this paper. It says that Jews have all the power and money! I would rather read the good news!"

You see, I like the good news too.

13 posted on 11/23/2002 9:42:20 PM PST by Nachum
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Hahahaha FUNNY!
14 posted on 11/23/2002 9:44:13 PM PST by dennisw
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LOL...It (the communist newspaper) sounds like Liberty Forum on it's 'nice' days!-)
15 posted on 11/24/2002 12:13:22 AM PST by beowolf
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To: alan alda

Alan Dershowitz, icon of the liberals.

16 posted on 11/24/2002 12:28:13 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: alan alda
In Piscataway, NJ there was a large settlement of "Trotskyites" between the world wars.  They were Jewish by heritage but their Atheist communist beliefs didn't make them popular and of course, like most collectives, it ended when no one would work.

This article is correct to say that it started in the 1930's.

Lev Davidovich Bronstein (AKA Leon Trotsky)

18 posted on 11/24/2002 12:43:12 AM PST by Incorrigible
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I haven't thanked you in awhile.

Sure do appreciate your posting and pinging work,

and your generosity!

19 posted on 11/24/2002 5:31:15 AM PST by Taiwan Bocks
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Thanks for the flag, d. Great, if depressing article.

glc1173@aol.com, Dennis Prager bump.

I'll share this.

20 posted on 11/24/2002 8:50:57 AM PST by onedoug
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