[No dems 2002]

"Yeah, and 70% of Latinos voted for Davis, despite the fact he vetoed drivers licenses. If Simon had taken a strong stand on illegal immigration the way Pete Wilson did, he would have not only won more white voters, but more blacks, Asians, and even possibly more legal Hispanic voters who are fed up with illegal immigration as well."

True. Bill Simon should have been stronger, but I think that the whole California story has gone over the rails, as to why the GOP is in trouble there. Immigration is, in reality, only a small part. There's a fundamental problem with Californian whites in general that a politician's immigration views in themselves can't fix. I think, in fact, that only God can change the Californian white moral problems. I say that as a former resident of California, too (I spent a good deal of my childhood in southern CA).

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I'm not from California so I'm only taking the word of those who are that whites are fleeing the state in droves. The ones who are remaining behind are the die-hard liberals, so your point is well taken.

But there is no denying illegals are voting and for politicians who will serve their interests- ie open borders and amnesties, which plays right into the Mexican government's interests. Eventually, they will have quite a bit of pull in Washington as they seek to merge the two nations economically and politically. It is their stated goal. Fox makes no secret of it. I'm beginning to wonder if it's ours as well.