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To: gore3000
You set junk DNA up to be the breaking point of evolution -- biologists didn't. You're contentions about Pasteur have been shown to be invalid (he simply proved that microbes did not spontaneously generate, not that life from non-life is impossible -- there is a difference, but you're too narrow-minded to actually see it). All your points above fall into "this is what I claim evolution says, and I can therefore prove it's wrong." It's a whole lot easier to take down strawmen than it is to actually tackle the science involved. Of course, this has been shown to you time and again on these threads for the past two years and you still soldier on, immune to reality. You are not the end-all and be all of science -- hell, from your postings it's obvious you've never taken a college-level science course in your life and most of your science comes from Jack Chick pamphlets, otherwise you'd not use terms like "I proved" all the time. Your theology is as narrow as your understanding of science. You insult people who do not agree with you (calling them liars when they obviously haven't uttered a lie). You are a child, and little boy, if you don't start showing that you are actually learning something from these threads (i.e., you don't keep coming back with the same arguments shot down three threads ago) and treating people with some civility (take a page from Alamo-Girl -- I don't agree with thing one she's said, but she's civil about it and we treat her the same way) you are back on my virtual ignore list.

Note please, lurkers, I will not respond to him not because his arguments hold any validity -- they don't and haven't for centuries. I won't respond to him because he is a mentally-limited, thoroughly brutish holy warrior with whom actual conversations are impossible.

1,243 posted on 12/10/2002 2:36:46 AM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
You set junk DNA up to be the breaking point of evolution

My point is much stronger. Evolution has been consistently refuted by science. Its predictions have been shown to be false consistently. Junk DNA is in a sense the final straw in evolution's back for several reasons. As I showed, evolution, when faced with the problems created for it by DNA needed to back up its theory with facts. It proposed two ways to do it: mitochondrial DNA as a 'molecular clock' of evolution and this one was proved false. Junk DNA sought to accomplish a similar function of showing the connections between species being shown by a sort of 'fossilized' DNA. Both failed and for very good reason - they assumed that the DNA in question was just there for the purpose of proving evolution. Now such a ridiculous assumption shows quite well the arrogance of evolutionists and their unscientific attitude. I say unscientific because a scientist looks for causes, for purpose not for purposelessness. To make the totally moronic assumption that 95% of DNA copied in the vast majority of the 100 trillion cells in the human body is purposeless is totally moronic and shows the desperation of evolutionists. It also shows that evolution is a hindrance to scientific progress. It would have had scientists looking for similarities amongst DNA rather than how it worked. It would have had them looking backwards instead of looking forward. It would have closed scientific inquiry of DNA instead of encouraging it. Instead, it is ID which encourages scientific inquiry. It seeks to answer the questions which science is supposed to ask: how, why.

What makes the dismissal of Junk DNA the final straw is what has been found in that 'junk'. The junk turns out to be the program of life, what runs the genes, what causes the organism to function. As science has shown, the genes are just factories of proteins and enzymes, they are run and controlled by the DNA which is non-coding. The genes do not do anything by themselves, they must wait for instructions on what, when and how much to produce. This makes evolution impossible because it makes new functions dependent on numerous factors arising and working together to accomplish it. One can postulate a single change arising at random, one cannot postulate an entire integrated system arising at random.

1,244 posted on 12/10/2002 5:18:30 AM PST by gore3000
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