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To: dinodino
ANOTHER SUMMARY OF MEMO RESEARCH EFFORTS from:

http://www.rense.com/general5/ramey.htm

New Roswell Evidence Deciphered In Gen. Ramey's Memo

From George A. Filer Majorstar@aol.com

Director - Mutual UFO Network Eastern

MUFON Skywatch Investigations

Filer's Files #43 10-31-00

Several groups of researchers are working to read the

Roswell message. Researcher Tom Carey provides the following data, "The Roswell research team of Tom Carey and Don Schmitt continues to break new ground in their attempt to "decipher" the so-called "Ramey Memo." In one of the July 8, 1947, photographs taken by Fort Worth Star Telegram reporter/photographer, J. Bond Johnson, Gen. Roger M. Ramey can be seen holding a piece of paper with writing on it as he kneels by some obvious weather balloon debris on the floor of his office. Several teams of researchers, including Carey and Schmitt, have attempted, by means of computer software programs, to "read" what is contained in what has become known as the "Ramey Memo."

In July, with the support of the International UFO Museum and Research Center in ROSWELL, Carey and Schmitt made arrangements to have the original negative scanned by sophisticated techniques at the University of Texas [Arlington] Archives where it is kept. This was a one-time-only operation as permitted by the University of Texas. The result is, in essence, a new negative of the original picture and not merely a photo of it. This includes a number of non-UFO-related entities as well as several well-respected Roswell-focused investigators who have attempted to "read" the memo before. One of these, respected Roswell researcher David Rudiak has forwarded his results to me, and they are gratifying to say the least. David advises me that the new scan helped to "clear up" some of the problem areas that he had previously been having trouble with.

Neil Morris from the University of Manchester in England with the Roswell Photo Research Team plus Don Burleson have also provided their interpretations of the message. Neil states, "In this comparison I have used my standard convention in my 'take' of the message. 1) Capitals denote firm interpretation. 2) Lower space are educated guesses. (they fit for spelling and syntax but may be incorrect) 3) "*" denote unknown letter, 4) My line format, is to the best I can conclude, correct to the grid layout of the typed text in the Ramey Message. (M) - Neil Morris current "take". April 2000 (B) -- Don Burleson's interpretation MUFON Journal March 2000. - (R) - David Rudiak September 2000. This is a work in progress by dedicated researchers. Tom Carey provides some comments after each sentence:

Line 1. ???XXXX-XXX--X-XXXXXXXX XXX--XX- XXX XXXX XXX--XX-X XX XXX (M) reco VERY Was ROSWELl Head oIc giveN AS THE (B) ECO---- OPERATION WITH ROSWELL DISK 074 MJ--- AT THE (R) NEAR OPERATION AT THE [This probably refers to the one of the recovery operations. Remember, we believe that there were at least two, possibly, three sites associated with whatever crashed at Roswell in 1947 - Tom]

Line 2.????XXX XXX XXX XXXXXXX XX XXX XXXXX XXX XXXXXXXXX XX XXX (M) [n]ext 4hS EXp VIctIMS of THE WRecK and CONVAy ON TO THE
(B) - THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE
(R) RAN)CH AND THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE
[This probably refers to the Foster Ranch or possibly another ranch as well as to the "victims" associated with the crash. We believe that there were one, possibly two, "victim" sites. And we know that they went to Ft. Worth prior to heading east. - Tom]

Line 3. ???XXX XX XXXX XXXXXX XXX.
(M) *** at FORT WORTH. Txe.
(B) TEAM AT FORT WORTH. TXE.
(R) T)EAM AT FORT WORTH, TEX.

Line 4. ??XXXXXX XX XXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXX XX-XXX XXXX-XX-
(M) w**S** SOrTei *e**** thAT- ONUS raaF T&E A3**9* Landparty
(B) -- SS-- ON THE "DISK" MUST- HAVE SENT -0- A-AM-- A-------D
(R) THE "DISC" THEY will ship FOR A3-AS2 ARrived(.)
[Something in the disk - corpses? - was going to be shipped to Gen. Ramey who is identified as "A1". Again, we know this in fact happened. - Tom]

Line 5. ?XXXX-XX XX-XXXX XXXXXX XX XXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXXXXX XXX---
(M) SOught CRASHes *O**** are needed sITEone ** **s***** locate
(B) ----- URGENT. POWERS ARE NEEDED SITETWO AT CARLSBAD, NMEX--
(R) BY B29-ST OR C47. WRIGHT AF ASSIST FLIGHTS AT ROSWELL. ASSURE
[Following on the previous line, we know that a set of bodies was shipped to Ft. Worth the following day - July 9th, 1947 - by B-29 special transport ("ST"). We also know that flights from Wright Patterson to and from Roswell did in fact take place - Tom]

6. ??XX-X-XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XXXXX XXX XXXX-
(M) MIDDAY 509# TOLD newspaPeR segment of STORY Adv *****
(B) ------SAFE TALK NEWSPAPER MEANING OF STORY AND -----
(R) THAT CIC-TEAM SAID THIS MISTAKEN MEANING OF STORY AND THINK
[By this, it appears that the original press release of July 8th, 1947 stating that the RAAF had recovered a flying disk was a local mistake perpetrated by the CIC Team at Roswell, i.e., Sheridan Cavitt., rather than being orchestrated from Washington - Tom]

Line 7. ?-XXXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXX XX-XX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXX XXXX
(M) LLY THrY EVEN PUT for AF WEATATN BALLOONS raDar WERE
(B) ONLY SHOW ---- ---- BY WEATHER BALLOONS 400-KW WAVE
(R) LATE TODAY NEXT SENT OUT PR OF WEATHER BALLOONS WOULD WORK
[This line talks about sending out the weather balloon press release ("PR"), and that is would work better - see next line - Tom]

Line 8. ??-XXXX-X XXXX XXX XXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXX.
(M) And Land L*** denver ofww3
(B) -- 9 AND LAND L--- DENVER CREWS.
(R) BETTER IF THEY ADD LAND DEMO RAWIN CREWS.
[if weather balloon demonstrations using Rawin targets were conducted. These in fact did take place as we can see in the July 10th Alamogordo News and the July 11th Fort Worth Star Telegram. - Tom]

Line 9. XXXXX-
(M) ******
(B) TEMPLE
(R) RAMEY

Neil Morris writes, "At the moment, the text seems to me to be more advisory ie a report or summery of the situation and seems to cover these main points.

1) It gives early warning "4hr" of "victims" being transferred to ? "at Fort Worth".

2) It seems to say the "onus" of the search is/was placed on a Technical and Engineering unit and they are requesting further support possibly out at a "site one".

3) It informs that the 509th Bomb Group released some of the information to the media at noon that day,

4) It advises "adv" that ?initially? the theory of the "weather balloon's" radar reflectors as being responsible had been suggested or given. I personally get the impression this is info being given from a third party fully aware of what is going on and to what extent, they seem to have a full overview of the situation. From the way the 509th is referred to I don't think this document originated there, but it does seem to have the feel of a report from "a forward command." Thanks to Neil Morris neil@adm1.ph.man.ac.uk. David Rudiak, and Don Burleson, for their continuing efforts in this area of Roswell research.

Editor's Note: Work continues on the General Ramey message probably written by him to higher headquarters.

296 posted on 11/26/2002 3:17:36 AM PST by Quix
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To: Quix; 185JHP; 38special; bert; BlackbirdSST; brat; crystalk; Davea; Doctor Stochastic; dogbyte12; ..
I suppose this may be info overload. But I hope not.

This post above is to my mind an excellent treatment of the Ramey memo. There are some other posts before that one about the Ramey memo.

If and when anyone gets time or has interest, I'd enjoy a clue as to whether all the typing is worth it. It's worth it to me IF it's worth reading and pondering by even a few other folk.

Blessings,
298 posted on 11/26/2002 8:05:57 AM PST by Quix
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