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Interesting motives and expectations clash.

I came on the thread WITHOUT any need or intent to PROVE anything.

I don't believe a lot of folk with your attitude will be convinced until they are consciously abducted or some such themselves regardless of how many experts or CNN live reports or artifacts falling in their back yards or whatever occur.

I came on the thread keenly interested in tossing information about with others who might know something more or different than I do. I don't expect this subject to be PROVEN beyond a SKEPTIC'S doubt until God says it's time to allow that. That time may be fast approaching but I don't see it here as yet.

If you earnestly and honestly and fair-mindedly want to examine the best evidence out so far--I'd suggest starting with Greer's 570 page book. A good number of the sources there are high ranking in both scientific fields and jobs pertinent to the topic. It would be interesting to me if you could read the whole thing and come away with the same attitude you have now.

I don't have any need to try and force you to believe much of anything--unless it might be about God and that can't be forced at all if it's to be real and valid anyway.

I do strongly believe this issue/subject area is going to play some significant roles in end-time events. I do believe it will be important for people to be alert and discerning. I strongly suspect it will be part of a Great Deception in some key way(s).

But the future's not here yet.

I don't mind learning all I reasonably can ahead of time.