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How We Got Fluoridated
Stop Fluoridation USA ^ | Unknown | Philip Heggen

Posted on 11/22/2002 7:33:34 PM PST by FormerLurker

 
 
 
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How We Got Fluoridated

by Philip Heggen

Preface

Throughout the world, and from the beginning, virtually all living creatures have been exposed to fluoride. It's nothing new. Fluoride is one of the most abundant elements in the earth's crust - cumulative and toxic to all forms of life at remarkably low dosage.

Sixty years ago U.S. dental researchers had identified areas in sixteen states where disfiguring mottled enamel was a serious problem. Thirty years ago, the World Health Organization had noted that high concentrations of fluoride are found in areas of every continent and that dental fluorosis is a problem from Finland to South Africa and from England to Japan.

But fluoride affects more than just developing teeth. Even dinosaurs have ingested water and vegetation contaminated by fluoride from volcanic gases and ash - and suffered the consequence in terms of painful arthritic effects.

Industrial mining and manufacturing, like mini-volcanoes, bring up fluorides from the earth into the biosphere, with similar effects on human communities. In the past century or so, man has spawned these "mini-volcanoes" without fully understanding the consequences. Modern well-drilling equipment has provided much needed water from deep within the earth - and this, too, has resulted in fluoride poisoning.

Fluoridation has not been a conspiracy in the usual sense of the word ... but rather, a colossal blunder.

"The problem is enormous, unbelievable," says Andezhath Susheela of the Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation in Delhi, India. She has been unraveling the national story for a decade during which time her estimate of the number of people leading "a painful and crippled life" from fluorosis has risen from one million to 25 million and now to 60 million - six million of them children - spread across tens of thousands of communities. "In some villages three-quarters of the population are seriously affected."

This paper is a chronicle and overview spanning the history of modern industry. It shows the rise of fluoride pollution and how economic motives have overridden concerns for human health. We take you back to the early metal refinery pollution in Europe and show the record of lawsuits for fluoride damage. This reveals the basis for American industry's fear of being shut down by lawsuits. We also document the steps taken by industry to divert public attention away from fluoride air pollution. This chronicle shows that the origin of water fluoridation is in these fluoride fears of industry -- not in concern for children's teeth.

During the 1940s, the development of the atom bomb required handling huge amounts of fluoride in the production of nuclear weapons. Documented here is a major safety study by the Atomic Energy Commission. As a result of this extensive study, the federal government became involved in the suppression of information about fluoride poisoning. Formerly restricted government documents now made available under the Freedom of Information Act have filled in blank spaces in this chronology.

Thus, both big government and big industry, for different reasons, became involved in the cover up. The succeeding collaboration of industry and government is documented below in detail.

The difficulties in maintaining a deception over an extended time are sizable. This is especially true with an ongoing issue like fluoridation. A compounding of dishonest statements and actions is required to maintain the original deception. At a certain point, the truth of the situation becomes obvious. These consequences are now coming to bear on the defenders of fluoridation. The Epilogue deals with this coming confrontation.

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To: PeaceBeWithYou
That's great! I will have to add that to my "rat" collection.
361 posted on 12/03/2002 11:41:21 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: FormerLurker
And that is why it dissolves lead pipes.

I hear it dissolves tinfoil too. With all that nasty fluoride in rainwater, you might want to stay indooors.

362 posted on 12/03/2002 6:16:31 PM PST by TomB
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To: sweetliberty
That's great! I will have to add that to my "rat" collection.

Have you considered adding FormerLurker to your collection?

What a prize!

363 posted on 12/03/2002 6:18:12 PM PST by TomB
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To: TomB
I hear it dissolves tinfoil too. With all that nasty fluoride in rainwater, you might want to stay indooors.

Is that how they make "stannous fluoride"? BTW Tom, have you heard of DuPont? Hear they had a little mishap back in the 40's...

364 posted on 12/03/2002 6:26:49 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Have you considered adding FormerLurker to your collection?
What a prize!

Ah, but you'd take first place Tom....

365 posted on 12/03/2002 6:28:03 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Oh what the heck Tom, it seems like you want to discuss this..

TOXIC SECRETS - Fluoride & the A-Bomb Program

366 posted on 12/03/2002 6:35:12 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Fluoride, Teeth and the A-Bomb

Fluoride And The Dumbing Down Of America

ALERT - Fluoride Facts 'Toxic Secrets: Fluoride And The Manhattan Project'

Is Fluoride Really As Safe As You Are Told?

DANGERS ASSOCIATED WITH FLUORIDE

A Secret History of America's Worst Air Pollution Disaster

367 posted on 12/03/2002 6:40:52 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Is this what you've been looking for Tom?
368 posted on 12/03/2002 6:59:40 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Oh c'mon Tom, you've been waiting for this minute. What have you got to say?
369 posted on 12/03/2002 7:31:42 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Is this what you've been looking for Tom?

An article about the A Bomb is an epidimiological study?

The only study I saw in your spam involving normal fluoridation is the New Jersey study, and subsequent investigation has found no further evidence. So it looks like you struck out again.

Oh c'mon Tom, you've been waiting for this minute. What have you got to say?

"I'm still waiting"?

This is a study I posted before, but since you didn't look at it I'll post it again. It looked at hundreds of studies on fluoride efficacy and safety (ie cancer rates, hip fracture, etc). Obviously it found no basis for any of the accusations.

370 posted on 12/04/2002 7:42:56 AM PST by TomB
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To: TomB
This is a study I posted before, but since you didn't look at it I'll post it again. It looked at hundreds of studies on fluoride efficacy and safety (ie cancer rates, hip fracture, etc). Obviously it found no basis for any of the accusations.

Bwahahaha. They DID an internet search and claim they found no negative data. Obviously, they weren't looking too hard..

Perhaps they should try Google next time.

371 posted on 12/04/2002 7:49:10 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
I suppose you don't get cavities if your TEETH FALL OUT, right Tom?

From Fluoride, Teeth and the A-Bomb

These reporters made what appears to be the first discovery of the original classified version of a fluoride safety study that was later published in the August 1948 Journal of the American Dental Association. Comparison of the secret with the published version indicates that the AEC did censor damaging information on fluoride - to the point of tragicomedy.

372 posted on 12/04/2002 7:56:55 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Bwahahaha. They DID an internet search and claim they found no negative data. Obviously, they weren't looking too hard..

Perhaps they should try Google next time.

Did you LOOK at the studies they used? Would you like me to post them all?

Anyway, I was looking at your "proof" in post #367 and I came across some interesting quotes from this website:

    "I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable."

    - Charles Gordon Heyd, MD, president, AMA

What they DON'T tell you is that Dr. Heyd was president of the AMA in 1937!

And this:

    Albert Schatz, PhD Nobel Laureate for discovering streptomycin quoted in Sutton's Fluoridation:The Greatest Fraud

Here is the Nobel Prize website. I defy you to find Dr. Schatz listed there.

If the websites your get your information from are that dishonest, why should we believe ANYTHING on them?

373 posted on 12/04/2002 8:04:07 AM PST by TomB
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To: FormerLurker
I suppose you don't get cavities if your TEETH FALL OUT, right Tom?

Can you tell me what that has to do with fluoridated water?

Why isn't this happening everywhere?

374 posted on 12/04/2002 8:06:53 AM PST by TomB
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To: TomB
What they DON'T tell you is that Dr. Heyd was president of the AMA in 1937!

Everywhere else I've read about Dr. Heyd 's comments he has been referred to as a past president of the AMA..

Albert Schatz, PhD Nobel Laureate for discovering streptomycin quoted in Sutton's Fluoridation:The Greatest Fraud Here is the Nobel Prize website. I defy you to find Dr. Schatz listed there.

It appears that Dr. Mercola finds that Dr. Schatz SHOULD have been awarded the Nobel prize, as Dr. Schatz DID get the shaft instead of the Nobel...

Credit where it's due

Time, and the great healer

As far as MY references to either individual, I've posted the following, from Esteemed Voices have, for 50 years, warned the American public that water fluoridation has dangerous long-term consequences to health

"I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable."
Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association.

"fluoridation ... it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has. "
Professor Albert Schatz, Ph.D. (Microbiology), Co-Discoverer of streptomycin

If the websites your get your information from are that dishonest, why should we believe ANYTHING on them?

For one, I haven't relied on Dr. Mercola or the information from his website. There may be some inaccuracies there, and I haven't quoted anything from that source. I simply found some useful information there that matched other information that I was looking through. In relation to your own deceptive and misleading comments, I'd say the minor inaccuracies you found on Dr. Mercola's website are trivial.

It's not like forgetting to mention that a person's teeth have fallen out when saying that they have no cavities. Nor is it like insisting that calcium fluoride totally dissolves in water and that there is nothing different between NaF and CaF2

The only dishonesty I've seen here is from you and your ilk..

375 posted on 12/04/2002 8:47:20 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Can you tell me what that has to do with fluoridated water?

It has to do with the ADA's conclusion that as fluoride workers had no cavities, fluoride is good for your teeth (even if that means your teeth rot out of your mouth)..

376 posted on 12/04/2002 8:48:58 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: TomB
Did you LOOK at the studies they used? Would you like me to post them all?

If they're saying they couldn't find any that showed fluoride to be harmful, perhaps they should simply read this thread and click on some links, as I've obviously found more than a couple...

377 posted on 12/04/2002 8:51:11 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker; aruanan; wimpycat; discostu; PeaceBeWithYou
For one, I haven't relied on Dr. Mercola or the information from his website. There may be some inaccuracies there, and I haven't quoted anything from that source. I simply found some useful information there that matched other information that I was looking through. In relation to your own deceptive and misleading comments, I'd say the minor inaccuracies you found on Dr. Mercola's website are trivial.

So posting the comments of a "past president" of the AMA WITHOUT mentioning it was SIXTY FIVE YEARS PAST or personally awarding someone a Nobel Prize because you "think he deserved it" are only "minor inaccuracies". Geez, it hate to see what the major ones are.

You are building up quite an impressive list of goofs. Now tell me, why should anybody believe you?

378 posted on 12/04/2002 8:55:13 AM PST by TomB
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To: FormerLurker
If they're saying they couldn't find any that showed fluoride to be harmful, perhaps they should simply read this thread and click on some links, as I've obviously found more than a couple...

What? From websites that quote as a source a man who was AMA president 65 years ago, or awarded their own, special Nobel Prize?

Yep, I'm sure they're full of truthful information.

And can you refute these studies or are you just going to continue to wave your hands wildly at them?

379 posted on 12/04/2002 8:58:57 AM PST by TomB
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To: FormerLurker
As far as MY references to either individual, I've posted the following, from Esteemed Voices have, for 50 years, warned the American public that water fluoridation has dangerous long-term consequences to health

I've pointed out that argument is worthless, but since you are clinging to any scrap of hope remaining, you continue to come back to it. So here is a listing of DMDs and MDs from ONE CITY who support fluoride (Worcester, MA):

Dentists Who Support Fluoridation
(partial listing)

Robert G. Anusbigian, D.M.D.
Phillip Aubin, D.D.S.
Clifford Audette, D.D.S.
Peter P. Audette, D.M.D.
Robert D. Babigian, D.M.D.
Peter A. Blanchard, D.D.S.
Dennis Byrne, D.M.D.
John F. Coakley, D.M.D.
Robert C. Ciano, D.M.D.
Carl Cohen, D.M.D.
Howard A. Cooper, D.M.D.
Joan R. Courtman, D.M.D.
Manouch Darvish, D.M.D.
John W. Davis, Jr., D.D.S.
Rachel A. Day, D.D.S.
Joy-Ann S. Deane, D.D.S.
H. Martin Deranian, D.D.S
Roger P. Desilets, D.D.S.
Donald R. Desrosiers, D.M.D.
Anthony J. DiStefano, III, D.D.S.
Peter L. Drob, D.M.D.
James Esper, D.D.S.
Bruce M. Field, D.D.S.
Gerard J. Gadbois, D.M.D.
Charles A. Gagne, D.D.S.
Edward F. Gallagher, D.M.D
Brian A. Genna, D.M.D.
Frederick Giarrusso, D.D.S.
Lisa M. Giarrusso, D.M.D.
Kevin P. Grace, D.M.D.
Lowell A.Gross, D.D.S.
John P. Gusha, D.M.D.
Abraham W. Haddad, D.M.D.
Earle R. Halsband, D.M.D.
Thomas L. Hedstrom, D.D.S.
Lemuel W. Higgins, D.D.S.
Marshall L. Horwitz, D.D.S.
Philip P. Howells, D.D.S.
Robert W. Iacovelli, D.M.D.
Edward F. Ingerman, D.D.S.
Thaddeus J. Jankowski, D.D.S.
John F. Kalinowski, D.D.S.
W. David Kelly, D.M.D.
Stanley M. Levenson, D.M.D.
Shari N. Lisann, D.M.D.
Larry Z. Lockerman, D.D.S.
David H. Lubin, D.M.D.
Jeffrey D. Maher, D.M.D.
Nicholas Manzoli, D.M.D.
Eugene J. Mariani, Jr., D.D.S.
Sandy C. Marks, Jr., D.D.S., Ph.D.
Jay Marlin, D.M.D.
David M. Matson, D.M.D.
Frederick J. McCready, D.M.D.
Edgar Mendoza, D.M.D.
Michael Monopoli, DDS, MPH
Edward Morin, D.M.D.
Alexander M. Neidhardt, D.D.S.
Roland Nentwich, D.D.S.
Joseph Oakley, D.M.D.
Thomas J. O'Connor, Jr., D.D.S.
Thomas R. Ollerhead, D.M.D.
Richard C. Ostberg, D.M.D.
Daniel J. Ouellette, D.D.S.
Rebecca Paglia, D.M.D.
Matthew W. Panagiotu, D.D.S.
William Pollack, D.M.D.
Akram E. Rafla B.D.S., , D.M.D.
Michael P. Russo, D.M.D., M.S.D.
Elliot W. Salloway, D.M.D.
Charles S. J. Samborski, D.D.S.
Athan Savas, D.D.S
Christy Savas, D.D.S.
Stanley A. Shustak, Jr., D.D.S.
Richard P. Simitis, D.M.D.
Kelly Soares, D.M.D.
William C. Spang, D.D.S.
Deborah L. Sweet, D.M.D.
Robin Taher, D.M.D.
Dewey J. Tiberii, D.M.D.
Nicholas Tretter, D.D.S.
Anthony J. Ursoleo, D.D.S.
Davis W. Witt, D.M.D.
Casmer C. Ziemlak, Jr., D.D.S

Physicians Who Support Fluoridation
(partial listing)

George Abraham, M.D.
Janet Abrahamian, M.D.
Ronald Adler, M.D.
Alan J. Albert, M.D.
Richard Antonelli, M.D.
Paul Arcand, M.D.
Konstanto Avradopoulous, M.D.
Robert Baldor, M.D.
Mitchell Bamberger, M.D.
Carole Barrette, M.D.
John Batbouta, M.D.
Frank Bednarek, M.D.
Elizabeth Benjevin, M.D.
Wendy Bergman, M.D.
Laura Bessette, M.D.
Robert Bessette, M.D.
Charles Birbara, M.D.
Carole Black, M.D.
Diane Blake, M.D.
Paul Bradley, M.D.
Francisco Brea, M.D.
James Broadhurst, M.D.
Rosalind Brown, M.D.
H. Brownell Wheeler, M.D.
Michael Burday, M.D.
Jeffrey Burl, M.D.
Edward Calkins, M.D.
Lucy M. Candib, M.D.
Joseph P. Carlson, M.D.
Samde R. Cassey, M.D.
Mattie Castiel, M.D.
Robert Cavanaugh, M.D.
David Chad, M.D.
Anne Chaffee, M.D.
Easter Chiu, M.D.
Jeff Cohen, M.D.
Matthew Collins, M.D.
Ursula Collinson, M.D.
William Corbett, M.D.
Jose Correa, M.D.
William Crooks, M.D.
Paula Cullinane, M.D.
Mark Cutler, M.D.
Joseph Daigneault, M.D.
Michael Daley, M.D.
Steven Davis, M.D.
John A. Day, Jr., M.D.
David A. DeGrand, M.D.
Don P. Deprez, M.D.
Martin Devine, M.D.
Sharon Dilley, M.D.
Elizabeth Dobles, M.D.
Frank Domino, M.D.
Christie Donahue, M.D.
Steven Donhowe, M.D.
Russell Donnelly, M.D.
Ronald J. Dorris, M.D.
Francis X. Dufault, Jr., M.D.
William A. Durbin, Jr., M.D.
Judith Eaton, M.D.
Lynn Eckhert, M.D.
Thomas Eder, M.D.
Dianne S. Elfenbein, M.D.
Charles H. Emerson, M.D.
Michael Ennis, M.D.
Stephen Erban, M.D.
Anthony L. Esposito, M.D.
John Farricy, M.D.
Madeleine Fay, M.D.
Brian Feingold, M.D.
Marianne Felice, M.D.
Warren Ferguson, M.D.
Robert Finberg, M.D.
Jeffrey R.Fine, M.D.
Abraham Fischer, M.D.
Howard Fixler, M.D.
Nancy M. Fontneau, M.D.
Joseph J. Frassica, M.D.
Thomas Frates, M.D.
Nancy Frohloff, M.D.
William Gaines, M.D.
Fotios N. Ganias, M.D.
Larry Garber, M.D.
Luis Garcia, M.D.
Frederick Georgian, M.D.
Gerald C. Gladstone, M.D.
Wayne B. Glazier, M.D.
Gerald Gleich, M.D.
Jeremy Golding, M.D.
Joel Gore, M.D.
Andal Govindapichai, M.D.
Ivan Green, M.D.
Charles A. Greffrath, M.D.
Jerry Gurwitz, M.D.
Richard Haas, M.D.
Tom Halpin, M.D.
John Harding, M.D.
Robert S. Harper, M.D.
N. Alan Harris, M.D.
Mary Hawthorne, M.D.
Thomas Hedstrom, M.D.
Michael Hirsh, M.D.
Robert Honig, M.D.
Tim Hopkins, M.D.
Margaret Hunt, M.D.
Dilip M. Jain, M.D.
Shubhada Javlekar, M.D.
Leon Josephs, M.D.
Willa Kahn, M.D.
Joseph Karpicz, M.D.
Marshall Katzen, M.D.
Peter Keefe, M.D.
Gary Keilson, M.D.
Anita Kostecki, M.D.
Michael Kelleher, M.D.
Harvey Kowaloff, M.D.
Kenneth Kronlund, M.D.
Marta Kushnir, M.D.
Marci Lait, M.D.
Marsha A. Lavoie, M.D.
Jeffrey D. Levine, M.D.
Peter H. Levine, M.D.
David Levitin, M.D.
Jane A. Lochrie, M.D.
Randall R. Long, M.D., Ph.D.
Peter Lucas, M.D.
B. Dale Magee, M.D., M.S.
Gordon Manning, M.D.
Laurie Manthos, M.D.
Daniel Massarelli, M.D.
Susan Matthews, M.D.
Joan McDonagh, M.D.
Sarah McGee, M.D.
Gerald McGillicuddy, M.D.
Brenda McHugh, M.D.
John McKenna, M.D.
William McLaughlin, M.D.
Judith McNicholas, M.D.
Aaron Mendel, M.D.
Edgar Mendoza, M.D.
Peter Metz, M.D.
Bruce Meyer, M.D.
Charles Mills, M.D.
Morris Milman, M.D.
Armando Morales, M.D.
Kevin Moran, M.D.
Leonard Morse, M.D.
Seema Naravane, M.D.
Long N. Nguyen, M.D.
Orlando Nieves, M.D.
Gary Noroian, M.D.
Daniel O'Donnell, M.D.
Joseph H. Oyer, M.D.
Audrey J. Painchaud, M.D.
Lucia F. Palmer, M.D.
Linda Pape, M.D.
Charles A. Paquette, M.D.
William Parker, M.D.
B.G. Parulkar, M.D.
Cynthia Passarelli, M.D.
Sahdev R. Passey, M.D.
John J. Paulhus, M.D.
Stephen M. Pezzella, M.D.
Wilfrid Pitts, M.D.
Joel Popkin, M.D.
William Primack, M.D.
Joseph Procaccini, M.D.
Glenn Randall, M.D.
Roopa Reddy, M.D.
Lorie Reidy, M.D.
John Renneburg, Jr., M.D.
Thomas L. Rosenfeld, M.D.
Michael Rousse, M.D.
Veronica Rusu, M.D.
Ralph Sama, M.D.
Emilio Saturno, M.D.
Sapna S. Savant, M.D.
Joseph J. Savitt, M.D. John Schneeweis, M.D.
Maria Schoen, M.D.
Paul S. Schwartz, M.D.
Anne Seger, M.D.
Heidi G. Shah, M.D.
John Sheehan, M.D.
Theodore M. Shoemaker, M.D.
Shyla Shrinath, M.D.
Manjul Shukla, M.D.
Val W. Slayton, M.D.
James Carlisle Smith, Jr., M.D.
Guenter Spanknebel, M.D.
Morris Spierer, M.D.
Dale St. Lawrence, M.D.
Daniel Steigman, M.D.
Kenneth Stevens, M.D.
Christopher Stille, M.D., M.P.H.
Deborah A. Sullivan, M.D.
Ronald Tadiri, M.D.
Robert Q. Terrill, M.D.
Michael R.Theerman, M.D.
Michael Thompson, M.D.
Ya Tze Tong, M.D.
Imre G. Toth, M.D.
Wayne Trotter, M.D.
John Trudel, M.D.
Rudolf J. Utzchneider, M.D.
Daniel Veno, M.D.
Bruce Weinstein, M.D.
Jacqueline Wellman, M.D.
Michael Wertheimer, M.D.
Brook Wiers, M.D.
Alice Williams, M.D.
David Wilner, M.D.
Gary Wolf, M.D.
Peggy D. Wyman, M.D.
Robert Yood, M.D.
Lynda Young, M.D.
Peter Zacharia, M.D.
Marshall Zamansky, M.D.
John Zawacki, M.D.
Robert Zurier, M.D.


380 posted on 12/04/2002 9:10:28 AM PST by TomB
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